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How can we get rid of plastic waste?

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suzied Thu 11-Jan-18 18:26:30

The Government have made some wishy washy statements about “getting rid of avoidable plastic by 2042” , whilst this all sounds laudable, shouldn’t throwaway plastics be banned sooner? Shouldn’t there be legislation, not just relying on voluntary action? Should we have a compulsory deposit scheme on plastic bottles so they get recycled not thrown in landfill or the ocean? Shouldn’t fruit and veg be sold loose, not in plastic trays? I do take a refillable bottle out with me, but that’s plastic, I do have my own coffee cup when I go for coffee at my college, I do try to get fruit and veg from the greengrocer not the supermarket, I’ve signed the petition against plastic packaging, but what more can we be doing?

DotMH1901 Sat 13-Jan-18 12:16:26

Paper bag manufacturers are missing a golden opportunity to produce packing and carrier bags for the supermarkets - I don't understand why they haven't started already to be honest. My supermarket already has loose fruit and veg aplenty but only plastic bags to put your selection in - a switch could be made quite easily to paper bags if they were available. We could also go back to glass for packaging - we have been seduced into using plastic as they needed to get rid of the byproducts from petrol and oil production.

Luckygirl Sat 13-Jan-18 12:07:08

I have three string bags and also a small nylon bag that folds in on itself to create something very tiny. I always take these shopping with me. I also have supermarket bags - large ones that clip on the sides of the trolley, so never need carrier bags in the supermarket.

varian Sat 13-Jan-18 12:02:54

The only time I ever buy bottled water is after going through security at an airport. I see that airports are now being asked to install drinking fountains in the departure lounge so people can refill their empty bottles before boarding.

PamelaJ1 Sat 13-Jan-18 11:56:48

Minxie is right, the supermarkets don’t do the packaging but they have tremendous influence on the manufacturers.
Perhaps we could have a less packaging day when we all remove as much packaging as possible and leave It in a pile at the supermarket of our choice!
I ve stopped buying bottled water. My next deodorant will be in a glass bottle, every little helps.
It would be easier if every council had the same recycling rules and packaging wasn’t so complicated. No wonder that less committed people can’t be bothered.

varian Sat 13-Jan-18 11:52:48

My last comment was in response to Jalima's post of 11.18.30.
When posts come thick and fast it's easy to lose the thread.

Chewbacca Sat 13-Jan-18 11:28:30

Oh thanks for clarification jura, I must admit that I was perplexed because durham wrote "Are you trying to make this thread political, icy?" Thank you anyway.

varian Sat 13-Jan-18 11:28:05

I expect you're right Jalima but it just shows how easily lies and fake news can be spread on the internet. When we spot this sort of thing on GN or any other social medium, we need to correct it, rather than accept it at face value and volunteer to repeat it and spread it further.

I think it's worth checking out a reputable source like Cancer Research UK.

Jalima1108 Sat 13-Jan-18 11:27:52

^ It is massive and only proper legislation can make a real difference.^
Perhaps we need to instigate a world summit, we can do our best but leading by example may not be enough.

Jalima1108 Sat 13-Jan-18 11:26:33

LOL

Chewbacca Sat 13-Jan-18 11:25:26

Our butcher does NOT put our meat in our tuppence! He puts it in our Tupperware! blush

jura2 Sat 13-Jan-18 11:24:23

Chewbacca- the 'political' bit refers to a comment made by Nonnie on Friday 11.43.19:

'Not going to get political because that only puts posters off writing on a thread. Please stop it.'

Must say it made me jump too. Because most things are 'political' - be it health, education, transport, social issues, roads, etc, etc, etc, etc - and of course our attitude to waste and recycling. Which is why some countries have totally different ways of dealing with it- some are much more, or much less- willing to find solutions and spend the necessary money and time, energy and research - whilst others - and in this case sadly, the UK - just putting everything into landfilll and send the rest to other countries - be it nuclear waste, or plastics. Time for a massive change- and yes, there is no other way- it is political and collective responsibility, as well as individual.

Jalima1108 Sat 13-Jan-18 11:18:30

varian I think this was started when an American singer got cancer and it was thought that re-used plastic bottles were leaching oestrogen-like chemicals into the water especially if the bottles were left in a hot car.
www.npr.org/2011/03/02/134196209/study-most-plastics-leach-hormone-like-chemicals

Chewbacca Sat 13-Jan-18 11:12:43

Sorry durham, still can't see the relevance of your post to icy. However, back to the subject matter. .. Our village started a campaign to try and eliminate the use of plastic at the beginning of the year and all of the shops here are on board with it. We can take our own containers to the butchers and, after weighing out the meat, he puts it in our own tuppence or whatever you take. The 2 bakery shops only use paper bags now. It's surprising how quickly the majority of the village has taken to it and it's become a bit competitive as to who can be the most inventive recyclers!

trisher Sat 13-Jan-18 11:11:30

If you are wondering why Mrs May has just woken up to the plastics problem, it's quite simple. We have been sending ours to China but they have refused to take any more. www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/dec/07/chinese-ban-on-plastic-waste-imports-could-see-uk-pollution-rise
Quite simply she had to do something. Unfortunately as usual it is too little and too late.
And sorry to all those posting nice unpolitical things about the little things they do. It is political. It is massive and only proper legislation can make a real difference.

varian Sat 13-Jan-18 11:09:57

As someone who has always refilled plastic bottles with tap water, I was concerned that a poster further back on this thread stated that this causes cancer.

According to Cancer Research UK THIS IS UNTRUE.

There are many hoax emails and unreliable internet articles warning about the so-called dangers of plastic bottles, containers and films. The emails generally warn people about reusing plastic bottles, freezing water in them or leaving them in hot cars. Some of them also talk about microwaving food in plastic containers or covered with plastic films.

However, there is no convincing scientific evidence to back up these claims or to suggest that any of these products could cause cancer.

www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/cancer-controversies/plastic-

Jalima1108 Sat 13-Jan-18 11:00:39

The net bags for fruit and veg is a good idea, although I don't have any net curtains, but you can buy those net washing bags.

Maggieanne Sat 13-Jan-18 10:58:34

Years ago, an elderly man was followed around a shop because "he'd got his own bag", it was assumed he was going to steal items! Luckily, things have changed, I've used my own bags for years, I think Kwiksave made you pay for bags so I took my own, sometimes got funny looks though.
We need to start in the schools, if we explain to children that this is for their future they will figure it out, and hopefully educate their parents because many people just don't care. Personally I don't buy cotton wool pads to remove make-up, just a muslin cloth that will last for ages, wipes are really not necessary are they, just more rubbish to fill the tips. Waste food compost or the local bird population, or freezing. There's a lot we can do individually, but some can't be bothered.

durhamjen Sat 13-Jan-18 10:57:04

First line?

Strangely enough, protecting the environment is very political. That's why suzie said in her OP that there should be legal action, not just the will to do it.

Chewbacca Sat 13-Jan-18 10:54:16

That's what I was puzzled about too niggly. I've re read icys post and can't see anything contentious that needed challenging or clarifying either. confused

dizzygran Sat 13-Jan-18 10:53:25

PS - saving the planet is everyone's responsible. There are no passengers on planet earth!!

dizzygran Sat 13-Jan-18 10:51:35

I have picked up a lot of tips from your posts which I plan to action. A lot of things I already do. Can I also ask you to think about the micro plastics which are used in lots of products and also in acrylics . When acrylics are washed the micro plastics are washed out and go into the food chain. Not always possible but please when you can buy clothes made of natural fibres.

nigglynellie Sat 13-Jan-18 10:45:18

What's political about icy's comments?! confused

Chewbacca Sat 13-Jan-18 10:37:36

confused

durhamjen Sat 13-Jan-18 10:36:01

Are you trying to make this thread political, icy?

Carolpaint Sat 13-Jan-18 10:35:52

Okay ladies, reading through the posts:
Get your milk delivered in bottles
Buy as much as you can loose.
Buy veg and fruit from your local market, they put it in paper bags.
Only buy eggs in pressed paper cartons
Get an insulated (stainless steel) cup for any teas, coffees and water consumed out of the home, reuse forever.
Cease to buy bottled water.
A question I can not answer, currently I put my freezing portions of food in tubs originally by the Cowlicious yoghurt people, what you you suggest?