Trump's UK visit

Urmstrongran I completely agree with you. As for Vampirequeen it is you folks who are the bullies. What do you think you are doing - 'sending him to Coventry' ? Do you know that is classic female bullying tactic?

vampirequeen.... hope you were out protesting when heads of other countries with far worse heads visited!!!

I think that we should tread water so far as Trump is concerned until the elections later this year. If the Republicans lose control of one or both Houses he will have less power. It would also make him less likely to stand again.
He is a nightmare but he is the first President for a while who has not started a new war for all his sabre rattling although it is unfortunate that he went back of his promise to not increase the bombing in Syria and Iraq.
He is awful, his supreme court appointments will cause problems in the US for decades and his giveaway to the rich tax bill was nasty and his attitude to immigrants is horrid but he has yet to do anything as internationally damaging as Clinton's repeal of the Glas Steagal Act or Bush's Iraq invasion.
Hopefully, his appointment will be a jolt to the Democrats to put up a better candidate next time.
I am hoping that Kushner will be charged (his and his wife's financial dealings are shocking and it is hard to believe that there will be nothing to charge him with) and as people like Banning fall from the wayside, the people around him are beginning to look a bit more rational.
We are stuck with him for a while and while he is travelling he is doing less damage so I am ambivalent about the visit.

I agree with comments that whatever we feel about DT he was voted for and is the President of the US. We have had many worse people make state visits with terrible human rights issues - did GN take to the streets then? The UK has always had strong links with the US and when we leave the EU we will be looking to them for trade. There wasn't a lot of choice when DT became President (Clinton or Trump!!), but we should respect his position. Do GNs really want to be part of the mass hysteria planned for his visit....

I am not part of a 'rent-a-mob' group. Nor has my opinion of DT been 'fuelled by loudmouths'.

I have the legal right to protest. By doing so I do not damage my integrity or reputation for tolerance.

'Stoney indifference' could be taken as acceptance. I have no intention of letting anyone think I accept the words and actions of Donald Trump or any other misogynist, homophobic, racist bigot.

Instead of shouting protesters, I think it would be more effective if we lined the streets but turned our backs on the procession and let it roll past in silence. It would be interesting to see how he could make any good tweets out of that.

I really don't care whether Trump comes to Britain or not, but I am concerned by the people who feel they have the right to take to the streets to protest:
"the good old British Public giving him what for!"
I don't think so. Stony indifference is far better. This rise of rent-a mob, fuelled by loudmouths on social media, does nothing for our integrity or reputation for tolerance.

You can't appease a bully. They have to be stood up to no matter who they are.

I think we are getting too het up here people. Trump represents the majority of votes in the USA. Their choice remember. Nothing to do with us. We should extend a welcome to the POSITION he holds as head of his country. As we did to other heads (some of whose human rights are truly shocking). Too much virtual signalling IMO.

I think we are foolish to piss DT off (whatever you may think of his style of leadership/personality) he IS still the presidents of the USA. We are burning our bridges one by one.

He can't even get his facts right about who OK'd building of a new embassy. George Bush was a Republican so he can't blame this on the Democrats and/or Obama (although he did in his tweet).

He's sulking because the powers that be wouldn't change the Embassy opening to a State Visit. He's like a little kid taking his ball back.

George Bush administration planned the embassy move in 2008.

Hoping for another unpresidential type tweet and foot stamping to say his state visit off.

There was no mention of State visit in the last Queens speech.

This planned visit is only for him to open the new embassy, the State visit sometime later this year is still on. Let's hope he takes the hint and cancels that one too.

Pity in one way. I was quite looking forward to the good old British Public giving him what for!

just think of all the money we will save not having to provide security!!!

I think it would be much better to absolutely clear the streets if /when he arrives here. He clearly thrives on attention so ignoring him would wound his ghastly pride much more.

Aye, right!

My DIL and I had agreed that we would take to the streets in protest if he comes here, so my first reaction was relief at not having to turn out in wintry February!

Now that he's cancelled, I do hope that HRH's diary will be very, very full and it will be nigh on impossible to agree a new date with his people.

Good