Really??

Don’t forget that you can ‘unfollow’ a friend, you don’t have to unfriend them, I’ve done that with some of mine because they post absolute tosh.

"We will all have seen and deleted the same or worse at some point"

Nope. Never. Stuff like that has never appeared on my FB page, nor have I seen it elsewhere.

And, as LucyGN says, stop attacking the poster and her friend. Attack the content and answer the OP's query about where to find the best counter-arguments to stuff like this so that she can explain things to her friend without ranting. (Not that I expect you would rant, nfk).

Totally disagree G23. Reference could have been made - there was no need to repost the whole thing. At the very least you have to question why it was.

I would also question the justification of the FB post with "I would assume that someone has found a refugee family who have received this sort of help". You only have to look up any of the benefits quoted. It is not justifiable and repeating it only play into the hands of the obnoxious human being who contrived it in the first place.

I agree, G23

I know that some of us can be quite robust but turning on poor Nfk for posting it because she wanted information on how to refute it seems unfair to me.

It's a pity that this forum doesn't have a view counter, it's interesting to see how much, or how little notice is taken of threads. I can't see that 'News & Politics' will really have much traffic beyond the handful of regular posters so I doubt if it's done any damage.

Everyone has been unanimous in condemning it or pointing to fact checking sites so any chance visitor, apart from a rabid racist, would be most unlikely to believe it or pass it on.

That's a relief.

Couldn’t disagree more G23 - she did absolutely not have to post it in all its glory to get advice.Those of us who are grown ups on here didn’t need to read it and those who read it who are racists will just believe it anyway. And before anyone starts jumping up and down of course there are racists who will read GN. If I wanted to discuss how awful child porn is would I need to post a photo to demonstrate that? Anyway, it’s done now and hopefully NfK has learned despite her self confessed small brain how to check such rubbish in the future. Nothing more to add from me

I have asked for it to be deleted as requested. Perhaps Maryeliza would start a new thread, correctly worded.

Thank you G23

Oh come on you lot. We are all grown ups on here. NFK was just illustrating for us how truly awful this piece of Racist Porn is. We will all have seen and deleted the same or worse at some point and the discussion is about how to deal with a friend who posts such utter rubbish and where to find the correct information to refute the claims.

I had this same post forwarded to me by a friend some years ago, but she (by her own admission not very worldly wise) sent it in the spirit of 'surely this cannot be true? The piece itself may offend you but the reason for posting it in its entirety is not offensive.

Yes ma’am immediately.

It’s not superior intellect - it’s called being a thinking human being. Why not ask for it to be deleted?

You, of course, would have done that, but me, being a bear of very little brain. Didn’t. Sorry. I was thinking along different lines. I bow to your superior intellect.

Oh come on Nfk how on earth could illegal immigrants be entitled to anything? And just to check how easily you could have found out yourself, I just now typed into Google ‘illegal immigrants and benefits’ and the first link that came up was to fullfacts. Theres something I just don’t get in your saying that you wanted to point out it was doing the rounds again by contributing to it doing the rounds again. Those who are racists believe it anyway and those who aren’t know how nasty it is and wouldn’t dream of reposting it - if they even received it in the first place. I think it’s a piece of pollution on here and you could ask HQ to delete the thread and then you could start a thread about how to check racist social media posts without giving BF the oxygen of publicity

I think it always worth remembering that saying that "lies are half-way round the world before truth has got his boots on" and not repeat them.

My reason for posting the whole thing in the first place was to 1) find out what asylum seekers and illegal immigrants are entitled to (if anything) as I couldn’t find anything reliable, only suspect media reports; and 2) point out that it’s doing the rounds again. Perhaps I shouldn’t have posted the thing in it’s entirety but I wanted to show how nasty it was and how easy to be taken in and re-post.

I leave a msg under these posts and explain why I am now unfriending them .I wont pass on Britain First nonsense but it surprises me that seemingly intelligent people do.When this was first posted the asylum seekers were receiving £5 a day allowance for food ,utilities etc and a roof over their heads...often in properties that are/were substandard .They lie on the breadline and on a knifeedge waiting for the Home Ofiice to come drag them out of these "homes" and take them to detention centres ..from there they are often escorted back to where they come from.I have a friend who works for the home office escorting people back .These are people who are destitute and desperate ...and a lot of their problems are of OUR making .Who bombed their cities ..or provided the bombs ? Who has left the middle east in a far worse state than it was before Iraq or Afghanistan ? We OWE them refuge

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NfkD what was you point in promulgating such obvious lies? If you were not sure, surely the thing to do was make a check of basic state pensions.

Of course I'm not going to circulate it Wilma You have! You did! You posted the vile fakery on here and someone, somewhere will be very glad to believe it because it will back their nasty little views.

Some really nice people are easily lead - and easily upset. It can be difficult to put them right without hurt. I have replied to this friends post to the effect that it's old fake news, best to check first - but I've done that before and she's slipping back into old habits. I fear she has friends who will pass it on. I've reported it to FB in the hope they can do something. (not holding my breath on that one!)

Sorry for hijacking the thread.

OldMeg I'm leaning towards meeting up with her because even though we don't see each other much, it's like we just last met yesterday. We just clicked when we met on a training course and spent 6 weeks sharing accommodation which was some of the best times in my life. Thanks for the advice, I think I will get in touch with her. I know she'll be falling over herself trying to apologise about the whole thing.

Wilma give her one last chance and meet up. But do discuss her attitude when you meet and see if she has truly taken your comments on board. If so great, but if not then you’ll have your answer.

Thank you Eglantine for posting the address of full fact, I always trawled the net trying to find out the truth now I can just click on my favourites bar.

Don’t be afraid to point out to your friend thst this is blatant, racist rubbish. If she is so ready to believe this sort of stuff you almost have a duty to tell her it’s not on.

Something like ‘sorry Xxxx I just have to point out that this is a load of bollocks spread by a racist website. I hope you don’t think any of this is actually true. You’ve quite upset me.’

You can of course leave out any words you consider offensive don’t water the message down. Sometimes we are complicit in racism simply because we are too polite or timid to say anything.