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jollyg Thu 18-Jan-18 14:59:32

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I find it extremely stupid to include news and politics in on thread.

Sorry they are not good bedfellows.

Politics here seems to bring on ranters, and cut and pasters, not quite what news is about.

Let those who complain vociferously do so please, but NEWS is a different subject where we can all discuss amicably

durhamjen Sun 04-Feb-18 13:56:04

Never noticed that on 18 JAN, jollyg.
I have better things to do as well.

However, starting a thread by saying HQ do stupid things?.......

POGS Sun 04-Feb-18 13:54:21

Well that's 2 posters who think' the ship has sailed ' so perhaps it has.

Elegran Sun 04-Feb-18 13:51:49

That is what reading the political threads does to you, Maisie. Having seen so many posts misinterpreted by someone who demands "Are you saying . . .?" and taking a post off at an unlikely tangent, I can't help assuming that they are following their own imagination up some blind alley.

POGS Sun 04-Feb-18 13:50:42

GG MK2

"So how about giving us your interpretation, Chewbacca, MissAdventure and Pogs. We are not playing Spartacus on here surely? "

I am certainly not playing at anything and if I say in a simple format I understand something then I understand it.

As for your request for my interpretation of what Elegran said I will use my own words as to what I think.

Some people see a grey area in life , not just black and white. Others see life as black or white with no grey areas. The grey people tend to accept a difference of opinion the black and white people do not because they and they are ' ALWAYS RIGHT.'

If you are a black or white only person then it is a waste of time a grey area person engaging with you because you are not prepared to hold any other view or debate .

Some might call it Narcissism , some might call it Activism, some might call it sheer bloody minded ness, some might call it pig headed but the black or white minded person would never view themselves in any of those terms because they know they are 'ALWAYS RIGHT '

Might have gone a bit off piste.

MaizieD Sun 04-Feb-18 13:46:38

Talk about a storm in a teacup!

All you had to do, Elegran when dj posted her comment at 10.18 today, Are you saying religion is not political?, was to say that you were using it an analogy. Instead you got arsey with her and a little fracas ensues. [I wish they had an 'eye roll' emoticon] People say that they're frightened to post on News & Politics and this little episode is a perfect example, to me, of the sort of behaviour that puts people off.

As for 'evangelising' I'm not at all clear on what you are labelling as 'evangelising. Do you have some examples you could point us to?

I think that it is far too late to separate News and Politics. The thread police would have an absolute field day on the News board; jumping on any hint that a post might contain something political and delivering smug little lectures about how the News forum has to be unutterably bland. Sorry, OP, I think that ship has sailed...

Chewbacca Sun 04-Feb-18 13:40:36

And please make sure you put it in this forum jollyg; not a fora. heaven forfend.

jollyg Sun 04-Feb-18 13:40:22

Please note I Posted 18 JAN, This thread has taken wing and flown in the wrong direction.

I had forgotten about posting it in the first place, and certainly not trawl through posts every day, I have better things to do.

durhamjen Sun 04-Feb-18 13:35:52

JollyG, how do you define News and Politics?
Just so we know what we should put in which box.

Chewbacca Sun 04-Feb-18 13:35:04

Hi jollyg, glad to see you back and know you're ok. Ignore the grammar pedantry and bad manners of some posters; it reveals far more about them than it does about you.

Elegran Sun 04-Feb-18 13:31:10

^ Good example of Religion (not faith) and Politics being cut from the same cloth Elegran.^ So we don't disagree on that. I suspect you would react the same way to dogmatism and intolerance on a religious thread as those who detect them on the politics ones react.

Not sure whether you mean me when you talk about getting things backwards or whether it was about "people".

GracesGranMK2 Sun 04-Feb-18 13:24:59

He still does Elegran. We have recently seen "ye have the poor always with you" misinterpreted yet again by some very loudly declaiming their Christianity on here. If you are still getting it backwards at this stage of life it could be presumed you are doing it because it suits you rather than 'Jesus'.

The same can be said for some of the interpretations of politics. We see quite a bit of "let's twist this to suit our own views" and "lets forget truth or facts". Good example of Religion (not faith) and Politics being cut from the same cloth Elegran.

jollyg Sun 04-Feb-18 13:24:30

Still here Marydoll. I was only making a simple comment that NEWS and Politics are not comfy bedfellows.

They should have separate bedrooms, or better still separate houses.

Maybe the sunshine here has got folk fired up, or is the lighter mornings, soon we will have the morning chorus toe wake us up.

Chewbacca Sun 04-Feb-18 13:21:59

Why would I want to give you my interpretation GracesgranMK2 when Elegran summed it up perfectly? Several others understood. You didn't.

Elegran Sun 04-Feb-18 13:13:21

Perhaps not everyone gets metaphors and analogies. I wonder whether Jesus had trouble with people not being good at transferring the meanings of his parables to other situations?

Maybe that is a question for a religious thread grin

Baggs Sun 04-Feb-18 13:11:29

Crystal clear to me too. I think some people are "doing a Cathy Newman" wink

Jane10 Sun 04-Feb-18 13:07:05

I got what you were saying Elegran. Crystal clear.

Elegran Sun 04-Feb-18 13:03:14

I think I have made it as clear as I can at 11:43:28. Over and out.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 04-Feb-18 12:56:55

So how about giving us your interpretation, Chewbacca, MissAdventure and Pogs. We are not playing Spartacus on here surely? Sometimes explaining in a different way makes things clearer (or not) but just telling us you get it is about the least helpful you could be.

Chewbacca Sun 04-Feb-18 12:29:18

And me.

MissAdventure Sun 04-Feb-18 12:22:05

Me too.

POGS Sun 04-Feb-18 12:19:49

Well I understand what Elegran is saying.

That is a statement not an opinion by the way.

Jalima1108 Sun 04-Feb-18 12:19:09

Jesus was certainly very political.
He certainly was!

Jalima1108 Sun 04-Feb-18 12:18:39

Are you a mind reader, jalima? You seem to know what elegran meant
I didn't read her mind, I just read her post

durhamjen Sun 04-Feb-18 12:03:41

Are you a mind reader, jalima? You seem to know what elegran meant when she was talking about it being on a religious thread instead of a political thread.
I didn't.
I was asking for clarification, that's all.
7 words, just a simple question, and I got a sermon.
How can you not understand a simple question?

Jesus was certainly very political.

Elegran Sun 04-Feb-18 11:48:54

GG2 You don't recognise the hellfire political sermon? I think the non-recognition could be part of what so many people comment on about the political posts.