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jollyg Thu 18-Jan-18 14:59:32

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I find it extremely stupid to include news and politics in on thread.

Sorry they are not good bedfellows.

Politics here seems to bring on ranters, and cut and pasters, not quite what news is about.

Let those who complain vociferously do so please, but NEWS is a different subject where we can all discuss amicably

durhamjen Sat 03-Feb-18 12:15:01

Don't you think the cost of housing is political?

Chewbacca Sat 03-Feb-18 12:09:26

If you don't want the political side of news discussing start a thread in Chat.

I've just seen that a thread in House & Home quickly became hijacked by political comments. hmm

Elegran Sat 03-Feb-18 11:59:30

The nits are not mine.

durhamjen Sat 03-Feb-18 11:37:57

It wasn't her point, by the way.
She said that NEWS and POLITICS don't make good bedfellows.
Of course they do.
Quite often I write "Here's some good news" on a political thread.

MissAdventure Sat 03-Feb-18 11:37:22

You're right. It is.

durhamjen Sat 03-Feb-18 11:35:19

Nit-picking, Elegran? Not like you.

I didn't pick the OP up on 'in on thread'. I thought that would be silly.

MaizieD Sat 03-Feb-18 11:27:02

'new' for 'news' is a typo; 'fora' mistakenly used as the singular is a mistake. There's a world of difference.

Elegran Sat 03-Feb-18 11:16:15

"You can't start a thread in new and politics and complain that it's become political." which is exactly the OP's point. Nice to see agreement.

Except that is it news, not new (well, if the OP can be told off for using fora instead of forum, what is sauce for the goose etc.)

POGS Sat 03-Feb-18 11:07:02

GG

Perhaps she considered she had stated her view and has the good grace to allow others to state theirs which may or may not be in agreement with her opinion.

Perhaps she stated her case and found some posts cemented her view about vociferous posting and she prefers to discuss matters amicably as her OP suggests and decided to let the thread run preferring not be drawn into any unneccessary unpleasantness.

Perhaps she does not feel the need to keep posting simply because she does not feel the need to, not everybody wants the last word .

Who knows? I do however hope it is not because she is ill.

durhamjen Sat 03-Feb-18 11:03:48

News and politica "are not good bedfellows."

Sorry, but I find that a very weird statement.

"British have worse diet in Europe."
"Social care crisis leaves millions living in pain."
"Sexist BBC pay."
"Charities warn of crisis as millions of people wait months for treatment."
"May bangs drum for post-Brexit trade with China."

All headlines in papers lying around - that should have gone into recycling yesterday.
How often have people on Gransnet started Good News threads? Quite easy to do.
If you don't want the political side of news discussing start a thread in Chat.
You can't start a thread in new and politics and complain that it's become political.

Elegran Sat 03-Feb-18 10:34:43

You may have missed the last half of my post. She could be unwell after a lot more up-and-down to the first floor than she is accustomed to. Or she could just have decided to leave the discussion to be continued and her point illustrated by the usual posters.

GracesGranMK2 Sat 03-Feb-18 09:56:56

Why not take her post at face value without looking for a hidden agenda?

That would be because they haven't even bothered to come back and join in the discussion. Unless I have missed a post?

Elegran Fri 02-Feb-18 21:31:57

Ninety-nine different opinions on which is which! It would probably settle into a pattern after a while.

maryeliza54 Fri 02-Feb-18 21:23:45

But imagine the bunfight deciding that?

Jalima1108 Fri 02-Feb-18 19:48:07

The OP hasn't achieved what jollyg wanted - which was the return of the original arrangement, one forum entitled "In the news" and another named "Politics". Why not take her post at face value without looking for a hidden agenda?

jollyg for what it's worth - I agree with you.

News is News
Politics is also News - but some News is not political.

varian Fri 02-Feb-18 19:38:09

News can be discussed with or without a political dimension,depending on the news.

Politics may be discussed in an abstract sense, with reference to theory but those of us who are inclined to discuss politics often feel quite passionately about our political views.

It is possible to disagree on politics without descending into personal abuse and I think it is best to remember that.

POGS Thu 01-Feb-18 21:03:03

I find no issue with how the OP worded her question.

I find no issue with the perfectly reasonable point/question the OP raised.

It is my belief when I joined Gransnet 'News' had it's own thread and' Politics ' had it's own thread. I remember comments at the time queried why they were suddenly joined together.

If I am mistaken perhaps GN could set my memory straight!

I think the OP is simply hoping that by separating the two there would be an end to the highly confrontational rhetoric that has reared it's ugly head again over the last couple of years but alas I think that ship has sailed.

Elegran Thu 01-Feb-18 20:22:13

The OP hasn't achieved what jollyg wanted - which was the return of the original arrangement, one forum entitled "In the news" and another named "Politics". Why not take her post at face value without looking for a hidden agenda?

I don't think you can take anything sinister out of her not re-appearing on the thread, as the only thing she has posted recently has been a reply to all the posts thanking her for bravely hosting the Burns meeting last Friday. I hope that she hasn't fallen victim to any flu bugs brought in from distant parts (from York, as well as many faraway corners of Scotland). As one of the oldest of us she is very vulnerable to such viruses.

Day6 Thu 01-Feb-18 18:18:51

"Frankly, it is not worth expressing any opinions unless you are prepared and able to use black belt judo or vehement invective against the replies. The overkill doesn't persuade or convert anyone any better than a milder response. It just sends them away from the discussion with a flea in their ear, to vote as they were going to anyway."

A good summing up Elegran.
I have vowed many a time to stay away from News and Politics as I have no desire to make enemies. There doesn't seem to be any middle ground, which is strange. Posters tend to be on one of two sides - left or right.

I suspect this tells us it's time for a new party to emerge as I imagine most gransnetters would describe themselves as only slightly left or right or centre. The Labour Party is reaping the whirlwind of not being left enough under Blair.

Yes, it's not the easiest forum but as has been mentioned, even if heavy snow is in the news, you can bet someone will blame Theresa May for the weather. Transport problems and clogged snowy roads and more ambulances needed as well as homes for little old men who have fallen in the snow and become confused will make the discussion political before long. smile

Such is life.

GracesGranMK2 Thu 01-Feb-18 18:00:08

No reply from jolly(?)g I notice. I wonder if the OP alone achieved what they wanted?

mrsmopp Thu 25-Jan-18 11:41:16

Another example of inappropriate lumping together of different issues is the combination of Memories and Genealogy. I would prefer them to be separated too.

Jalima1108 Fri 19-Jan-18 19:14:42

Actually, I don't suzied, occasionally I may check afterwards but that is not often.

Jalima1108 Fri 19-Jan-18 19:13:24

Go and sit in pedant's corner.

Sorry - Pedants' Corner.

suzied Fri 19-Jan-18 18:17:26

Who decides whether a topic or comment is political or not? Let’s face it, many of us don’t read the title of the forum a thread is on anyway.

durhamjen Fri 19-Jan-18 18:10:52

Well, as I am obviously being lambasted for wanting to make news political, I thought I might as well make it worthwhile.