The President's Club Annual Gala - "Men Behaving Badly"

Would it not be a bit soon for actors to loose jobs, especially as allegedly it was not all men who were involved.

That is good to learn Bridgeit, thank you

Apparently the charities regulator is looking into all accusations.

Well I haven’t heard/read one report off any denials from those who attended,so I guess that speaks volumes.

Would they keep the money with so many believing the report was true? Actors are losing jobs just because of allegations.

Well I’m guessing that if money has been returned, then it must be fairly well substantiated.

Thank you Bridgeit, I missed that.

So more than one yet no photographs supporting the allegations, suppose it comes down to - does one believe everything one newspaper claims

By its very nature the job is quite exploitative, I think. Maybe some women thought they would exploit Randy old men who should know better, and some men thought they would exploit silly, pretty women? Either way, it doesn't excuse the mens behaviour, although one hostess who has worked at this event before said she had never known it to be as raucous (my word, not hers) as this years event.

OP says it was under cover female journalists

I don’t actually know Annibach,I’m just going by what I have read.

Yes I agree MissAdventure, sadly our right to do as we please, also leaves us vulnerable to abuse, wether that takes the form of exploitation or manipulation.

This volume of paperwork, was this said by the reporter only or from one of the girls ?

Me too, bridgeit. There are so many sides to it all..

Yes of course it is their right, I don’t blame them at all, I just think it’s a shame that this is still deemed an acceptable part of a charity fund raising event for Men Only & the worrying part is that the job came with a volume of paperwork ( disclaimer) that they had to sign without having time to read it.

Surely its a woman's right to earn money as eye candy, if she knows its more lucrative than cleaning or other jobs?
I don't think its for anyone to dictate how another should earn a living, as long as it hurts nobody. Whether this night did hurt anyone remains to be seen, I suppose. I find it quite foul, but really, that's neither here nor there.

So are we now saying that suffergettes fought & died for the rights of woman to still be seen as eye candy for men? Perhaps they should have had employed scantily dressed males as well ?Or perhaps it is time no one should be employed to be touched up by sad old munters!!!

I'm shocked that any woman would describe the young women who worked at this event as a "disgrace to most decent liberated women" etc etc. That's the reality isn't it, once more putting responsibility on women for men's bad behaviour. Adam and Eve anyone?

Trisher - I totally agree with your earlier post, thanks.

gillybob On Sunday you wrote: ".......Why should any woman make another one feel bad about what they choose to do to make money ? I can’t remember who said it but £150 ( plus huge tips apparently) for a few hours dressing up in a sexy outfit or 20 hours cleaning toilets? hmm"

Today you say:

"They are in my opinion a disgrace to most decent young liberated women. being paid handsomely for parading around in skimpy clothes for the delight of some sleazy men"

So that's what it comes down to - those men who felt entitled to demean these young women were not really in the wrong - it is the women, whose condition of employment was to dress in skimpy clothes for the sum of £150, who should be ashamed of their behaviour.

Trisher. It has not always been said SOME men.

On 25th January you said - " I don't think any young woman could have anticipated that the men attending would be so foul "

So girls lose their jobs, this caused by some feminists who no doubt had or have a job which pays well.

"Young liberated women" ? Are you joking?

They are in my opinion a disgrace to most decent young liberated women. being paid handsomely for parading around in skimpy clothes for the delight of some sleazy men?

Perhaps there will always be rich men who want to be surrounded by beautiful young women who will massage their egos (and sometimes more) for money. But for the beautiful young women who want to make a living that way, times are changing.

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Ah so now we have it. Really what happens in city centres has nothing to do with this. If it's consensual that's just how it is. This wasn't. But it does display a certain prejudice towards young women.

Because they are young liberated women who have been taught (Thank goodness) that they have a right to dress as they like, look however they wish, do whatever they want and go wherever they wish and that no-one male or female has the right to touch, stroke, or do anything whatsoever without asking and being given permission to do so. And that attending a highly prestigious charity event in a well-known hotel is not an excuse for those principles to be abandoned. No one has had any sort of kangaroo court. Do you have any evidence of prosecutions? It has always been said SOME men. It's you who are trying to split hairs.

So trisher why would they apply for a job where the dress code was sexy, short black dress, black underwear, high shoes (whatever) The payment was £150 for a few hours plus a taxi home. They were asked to sign a disclaimer. Lets not forget this event was nothing new it has been running for over 30 years and many of the women did it several years running. As i have said lots of times there are plenty other little temp jobs to get.

I am not making excuses for sleazebags who may have overstepped the mark, but it should be THEM that are taken to task. There shouldn't be a kangaroo court assuming all men there were sex pests.