The President's Club Annual Gala - "Men Behaving Badly"

Fennel, Bill Gates doesn't seem to feel the need to flaunt his wealth at dinners like this.
If everyone who was at those dinners over the years just gave their money to Great Ormond Street Hospital, I doubt they would be any the worse off, and lots of young women might feel better about themselves.

If ( and it’s a big if) my granddaughter decided to walk around in a skimpy outfit at a formula 1 meeting ( or whatever) rather than clean shit off some rich woman’s toilet who am I to tell her it’s wrong ?

It is definitely not the girls who are being judged on here, & if some of those girls knew & were ok with being a bit more than eye candy & possibly being touched, then good on them as long as it is their choice. Seems very suspect that they had to sign a long & no time to read disclaimer,obviously to cover the backs of the organisers.
It is just disheartening that some men feel they still have the right to do as they please regarding their behaviour towards women, by virtue of wealth & position. I bet they would be horrified if they were arrested & classified as sexpests , which is what they would be ,if they behaved like this in other walks of life.

but she should be able to do that, without others thinking that gives them the right to grope or reach for her boobs ?

Exactly- anyone of any sex should be able to walk around looking attractive and not be subject to any unwanted touching or attention.
And Annie prostitution is illegal.

Prostitution isn't illegal, that is paying for or receiving money for sex, but soliciting, kerb crawling and running a brothel are.

Prostitution is not illegal, soliciting in a public place or running a brothel is

Why don't they have attractive young men in tight shorts parading at formula one or the tour de France etc?

Or at least a mixture of both sexes!

I expect there must have been a few there who would have appreciated it ,if there had of been. What would have been made of that I wonder ?

You did make me laugh ChristineFrance

Probably because the male drivers/riders wouldn’t want to be associated with young men in tight/ skimpy shorts suzied which would probably cause a whole new “upset” when they would all be accused of “using” young boys .

So “using “‘young girls doesn’t matter? Funny that. But makes sense if you are giving a great job opportunity to girls to parade around you should give equal opportunity to young men to do the same.

They're women, not young girls.

Exactly missadventure you would think we were talking about 14 year olds. They were women! Presumably with their own free mind and will.

If a large donor says he will not support you any more if you don't give the money back, then charities are allowed to return money.
Goodness me, that would be petty, wouldn't it?
to say you would not support a worthy cause because it won't give back money accepted in good faith in previous years before this became public.

Glass houses too?

Imagine the scene at home:

'I'm off to a charity dinner, darling, hoping to raise money for good causes'
'That's wonderful, darling, try to bid for something we can all enjoy'
'Darling, I had a lovely time, there were lots of sweet fresh-faced young women there and it made me think I should bid for some plastic surgery - for you'.

Anyone know a good lawyer?

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I wonder if Mrs Caring knows a good lawyer?
Now, who is that Fiona woman again?

I didn't make that rule up about returning money, Jalima. It's true, even if you think it's petty.
Personally, I like the idea that charities try to be ethical. It shouldn't take all sorts in the charity world.

No, I know djen, and of course it is better to be ethical. I can understand them refusing this year's money after all this has come out but they could have said 'too late, we've spent the money from previous years on vital equipment/services.

What I think would be petty would be if a would-be donor said, "well, I'm not giving money to your good cause because three years ago you unknowingly accepted money from a fundraising event which has since proved to be sleazy".
I would think, well, they won't be getting money from that source in future so they will need even more.

too many 'woulds' but I hope ycswim

What the charities have to do is explain whether it would lose them more money by keeping the dodgy money or by sending it back.
Charities commission has actually thought of this scenario.

What seems to me to be more important is how much the Tory party has been given by these party goers.
This is Richard Caring's list, much of it in auction prizes.
He's the one who paid the most for the boob job.

Of course he saves most of it in not paying tax, due to his non-dom status and having bank accounts in Switzerland.