The President's Club Annual Gala - "Men Behaving Badly"

That sounds horrendous, amt101.

I went to a fund raising local rugby club male strip evening. Never having been before. Had no idea what would happen. I suppose I assumed they'd be on a stage and just flash something momentarily. How naive I was. They walked around the tables letting the women do what ever to them. I saw one stick his todger in an ear. The women all were screaming and egging them on. It was awful and I have never been to one again. Alcohol was flowing so that probably didn't help.
No doubt the Dorchester do was a bit more refined? Who knows.

I presume the "girls" referred to were actually adult women who had a choice about doing this job.

I was listening to something about the non-disclosure agreements: actual crimes being committed would nullify the NDAs it was said so if a woman felt she had been abused she could report it to police in the normal way.

Oh, sorry. Jalima was on a previous page. She suggested that alarm bells should have rung, and I was agreeing

They should, Jalima. Anyone know what the women were paid?

Ohhp sorry I’ve probably confused you Trisher with Annibach ?glass of wine & multitasking !!

Sorry Bridgeit don't understand what you are on about, my remark about the girls was adressing why didn't the girls who had worked the event before warn the newcomers.
And the bit about the standard of dress was pure sarcasm (although there was a time when women were warned not show their ankles because it drove men mad)
As for "no one is criticising the girls", there are lots of posts on this thread doing just that

Trisher , I think you are missing the point entirely. There are plenty of establishments for men to visit if they so wish, where both parties know what the deal is.
This was a charity event, which only men attended & woman were employed ad hoc to be eye candy or more. No one is critising the girls . Of course woman should wear what they like when they like, but to please themselves not to please some slime ball, so if all the girls who worked there that night felt comfortable about it that’s fine. It’s the B ——y men that are ogling touching etc etc that are to be criticised

I would hope that Probus is the epitome of probity.

Yes I agree, I mentioned them but didn't name them, and posted that it is run by a woman Grandmama.

Instructions on what to wear are one thing - eg for waitressing DD would know it was probably black skirt, white blouse/shirt, but the instructions were about the underwear and shoes and the skimpy dresses were provided by the agency.

Alarm bells should have rung surely?

This sort of thing has gone in since time immemorial, however this no justification. The girls knew what they were going into purely by being told what they must wear. I heard something on woman’s hour this morning about banning all male do’s...what about the women’s institute? Let’s stop being so over the top PC ... we are becoming stifled by it!

Too many posts to read so not sure if anyone has mentioned the agency Artista. What sort of agency is it that would send young girls to an event like this with instructions on what to wear.

Anniebach not every man was a groper, not every girl was groped, perhaps the ones who were groped last year didn't turn up this year. So the old hands wouldn't be able to inform the new girls.
Would anyone who has expressed disapproval of the dress they wore like to say what they would find suitable? Should we stick women back in corsets and full length skirts and warn them not to show their ankles?

Gina Miller commented that the NDA cannot possibly be legally binding and those running the event know this. It is simply used as a bullying tactic, but how many of the women were aware of this?

Sleaze R Us

Note about Clinton. It’s got even worse since. Now they have Trump!!

Primrose
well I never did. How fitting indeed.

I just looked up the President's Club on opencharities.org and it was created the day after Clinton was inaugurated.

How fitting.

oh, disgusting pervert.
I think my DD (even at 18) would have said 'put it away, it's not worth looking at' and would probably have got the sack.

It's in the article, Annie.

Don't mind me asking, but which of you wouldn't mind your granddaughter standing next to someone who exposed himself to her while he was having his dinner?
You could say she could walk away, but once you've seen that, you can't unsee it.

There's another children's hospital which has handed back its money from this, the Evelina.
Both have justgiving pages for anyone who wants to donate.

I think we must give credit to the undercover reporters, too. They did a good job and it must have been quite frightening for them.

It has been said the girls started work at 4.00pm. There were about 100 girls, we can assume they were not kept apart to change into their working clothes , some girls had been to this event in previous years. Did they not talk to each other ?
Were they not troubled by the skimpy uniform? Were they locked in the building , they could have left at any time, perhaps it was in the agreement they signed but it has been said they were not allowed to read it.

could make a choice

It most definitely has NotTooOld and I know that this kind of thing has happened to my own DD (not that they were made to dress like that when waitressing though) and they dealt with it very deftly in a way which left no doubt.
However, these girls were 'set up' by the agency to behave like that imo and should have been pre-warned so that they make a choice of whether or not to work for them..

They could be so traumatised !