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One year on from Article 50

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Morgana Sat 31-Mar-18 20:08:07

I keep hoping that someone will see reason... What a pity that no-one from the 'working class' (sorry, hate that term), living in the Midlands or North, will/can stand up and tell it like it really is - those areas of the country will suffer horribly. As for Blair trying to take on the mantle of 'Mr. Reasonable' - well he is so hated that that will just push more people to believe in Brexit.

MaizieD Sat 31-Mar-18 18:57:26

This is a litle of what has been happening in business since the referendum.

I think the tweeter was a little annoyed at something the BBC's Political Editor said

"The 'Brexit dividend' is a myth and the media should stop pretending it exists"

threadreaderapp.com/thread/979796017653649410.html

Signs are that similar things will be happening over the next year...

Gerispringer Thu 29-Mar-18 16:18:41

Well we will be paying for it till 2064 so not many of us will be here to see any long term effects. What most people agree on is that we will be worse off initially, those in the most deprived areas will be even worse off, we will still need migrant labour, there will be no end to austerity in the foreseeable future, we will cave into most of the EU demands as we won’t have any workable plans....I could continue.

Bridgeit Thu 29-Mar-18 15:52:15

We are living through History in the making, ohh to be a fly on the wall a 100yrs Hence & to know who got it right & who was wrong especially as both sides are so passionate that they know best,there will obviously be many unhappy people in the coming years one way or another, but nothing new there I guess. Perhaps we should all write our thoughts on paper & hide for future generations to discover.

MaizieD Thu 29-Mar-18 15:28:53

I think you'll find that fewer than half the country voted either way. If there had been a 100% turnout of voters 52% would indeed have been technically more than half the country. But 37% of voters is not 'half the country' by any stretch of the imagination.
(And I really don't care what Cameron said, either. He had absolutely no authority under the British Constitution to make that 'promise')

varian Thu 29-Mar-18 15:22:44

I think you'll find that 25% of the country (37% of the electorate which excluded many people living here and paying taxes) voted to leave.

No-one could claim that none of these voters believed lies, all of them understood the implications, none were voting because they blamed the EU for things which were the fault of the UK government.

felice Thu 29-Mar-18 15:18:56

I suppose that depends on which country of the UK you call home.

hildajenniJ Thu 29-Mar-18 14:43:31

At least half the country! I think you'll find that more than half the country voted to leave. A mistake, it may be, but it was democratically decided. Whether we get the best deal out of it remains to be seen.

felice Thu 29-Mar-18 14:41:41

I wish there was a like icon, well said MaizieD sad

MaizieD Thu 29-Mar-18 10:35:38

In one year's time we either commit the biggest blunder the UK has ever made and leave the EU or we will sigh with relief because sanity has prevailed at the last minute and we've pulled back from the brink.

Whatever happens Britain will never again be what it was on 22nd June 2016.

I sometimes wonder if the nation is being collectively punished for its past misdeeds, how else could we account for the perfect sh*tstorm that we're going through? An incompetent government, a pathetic 'opposition', an assault on Parliamentary sovereignty, tolerance of lying and cheating coming from our reputedly 'principled' PM... the 'people' divided against each other..

Anyway, to cheer up wink all my Remainer fellow Gnetters I give you today's blog from the excellent Chris Grey who assesses where we are now:
A taster:

So we have a policy that at least half the country, and most parliamentarians, think is a mistake or worse being prosecuted with a level of ineptitude without parallel in modern British political history. It is regarded with incredulity by our friends and allies, and with glee by our enemies. Its main and most vociferous advocates scarcely bother to defend it anymore, and it is based upon a narrow majority that is increasingly looking to have been secured by a deeply flawed process. In the meantime, probably irreparable damage is being done to the economy, to our geo-political standing, to the civility of our political discourse and, the greatest human cost, to the lives of the millions of EU-27 nationals living in Britain and British nationals in the EU-27. Having predicated their lives, livelihoods and relationships, entirely reasonably, on freedom of movement and all that goes with it they remain in an agonizing limbo.

chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.co.uk/2018/03/a-year-into-article-50-unreality.html