Comrade Corbychev's Cock-Ups

Did this genius of a leader realy declare - no war is good ?

Good grief , he will no doubt get applauded for this declaration

Just heard the news on the radio. Corbychev plays a clever game I think.

No war is good. No wars have happy outcomes, many have repurcussions, so he will always be able to say "I told you so" should we engage in fighting overseas.

He has asked that Parliament be consulted before engaging in any action against Assad and co.

That's fair enough. May has not committed us to anything despite Trump's blustering.

I imagine many of us are torn. Lives will be lost whether we enter the fray or whether we standby and watch. I do think we have to confront aggressors and the use of chemical weapons is something we cannot ignore.

Cobychev does have to stop fence-sitting. We cannot normalise the use of chemical weapons. Some issues need all out condemnation.

Corbyn and the whole shadow cabinet seem to be very quiet just lately, so not much to say about them just at the moment.For a change.

Ah, Walter Softy? Who likes books of ‘very hard maths’

Oldwoman70 that made me laugh!

No one will dispute that!

Aw, ? Again , I do like this man

lemongrove - to stop you getting short of breath JRM has admitted that he is less muscular than Walter Brown of the Beano

I’m waiting with baited breath for the next JRM denouncement.

One wonders how posters managed to discuss politics before grandad recently joined to point things out to us

Grandad - However, when I am finished with work for the day later this afternoon/evening I shall be pointing out more shortfalls in the Conservative party and its members.

I really don't know whether to laugh or cry...

Have some lives really been reduced to this?

Internet pages, forum pages are like chip wrappers, aren't they? They vanish and all efforts are in vain really. We all indulge but I really wouldn't see political research into 'the enemy' as a worthwhile use of time, especially after a day at work. You really must have a burning desire to protect Corbychev.

And have a vested interest in the Labour Party too Grandad.

Grandad - Day6, it most certainly appears that you are anxious in regard to any mention of the conservative party

Good grief Grandad, get a grip!
If you had any idea of my life's circumstances you'd appreciate that a political party is not something I am going to become 'anxious' about. I have far bigger worries and anxieties, trust me.

All MPs live fairly charmed and privileged lives. I have very little regard for any of them. I have no love for the present Labour Party, like many others, but my love for the Conservative party or any other is miniscule, bordering on non-existent. I'd rather have May leading the country than Corbychev, and that is about as far as it goes. When all is said and done we effect very little regarding the governance of our country and the actions of our MPs. Most don't stand up to deep scrutiny.

We are having a discussion on an internet forum for 'older' people. Do not presume to know how I feel about anything - and get a sense of proportion, please.

I think Corbyn has got "to the grassroots" and that is his appeal. Thirty odd years ago, before New Labour was invented, I remember thinking that the top dogs in the Labour Party were out of touch with the grassroots and what grassroots people wanted from their involvement in politics.

Corbyn having been something of a rebellious grassroots back-bencher since the years when I was having that thought, has managed to keep in touch with the grassroots. That's his strength for his supporters—the grassroots ones anyhow—even if I wouldn't necessarily say the same for his parliamentary supporters.

Primrose I'm afraid you're describing exactly what senior members of the current Labour Party do. It's not even turning a blind eye, it's actively increasing the problem for personal profit.

I couldn't agree with you more. Though it isn't all of the New Labour lot, there are sufficient to make problems.
Which is just why Corbyn is getting such support from the grass roots, who want a different way of doing things, and who have read and understood the policies of the current Labour Party

Now there's a challenge Annie. I think you've just found the name for the next thread!

Grandad

"money before everything (especially their own money) and to hell with everything else. The foregoing holds true even if that means turning a blind eye to growing numbers of people sleeping on our streets, "

I assume that you're not aware of Lansman's property company that owned a homeless hostel in Victoria providing facilities for just over 180 people. They were evicted so that he could make a profit on the redevelopment.

I'm afraid you're describing exactly what senior members of the current Labour Party do. It's not even turning a blind eye, it's actively increasing the problem for personal profit.

Doubt it Primrose. Seems distracting this thread brings excitement but a thread titled 'Corbyn Our Saviour' would be soooo boring

Grandad

"A thread about Corbyn"

Does that help?

Not agreed , you do have long tea breaks

anniebach, will you or any other forum member demonstrate to me were in the title of this thread the name "Corbyn" is stated.

Being that it is not, the title leaves any subject open for discussion in this thread. Agreed

Now back to work, see you later. LOL

And I will post of the hypocrisy of Corbyn, I will be respecting the thread title

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Truelemon.

Grandad, you can try to divert the thread all you like with your references to JRM, but to be honest you seem to be desperately scraping the barrel and all you are doing is telling us you're not a Conservative voter - as if we didn't know that already.

How about defending one of your Labour comrades, the leader of the party - if you can? He needs all the help he can get.] End Quote

Day6, it most certainly appears that you are anxious in regard to any mention of the conservative party in this thread, but that is very understandable. After all, they have at least one of their MPs breaking international financial sanctions against Russia for no other reason than his own financial gain.

However, the above is typical of the Tories, money before everything (especially their own money) and to hell with everything else. The foregoing holds true even if that means turning a blind eye to growing numbers of people sleeping on our streets, family's evicted from their rented homes on twenty eight days notice, workers having to live on zero or very low hour contracts and many others having to survive in the gig economy.

Of course, the above is not about any party leader, it is about the core difference in the policies of the two parties. The above is why you Day6 and others on this thread do not want the Conservative party discussed.

However, when I am finished with work for the day later this afternoon/evening I shall be pointing out more shortfalls in the Conservative party and its members.

yggdrsil unfortunately the enquiry will not take place because none of the proposals were agreed and the Security Council is at deadlock

Oldwoman: That is an advance on Russia's previous attitude. At least the enquiry will take place. What happens to the report afterwards, who knows.

statement or excuse

Will Corbyn be making a statement regarding Russia voting against an independent enquiry into the recent chemical attack in Syria. Instead Russia asked for an enquiry in which the results are reviewed by Russia for acceptance prior to making them public

From the same NewStatesman article: "This stance comes from apparent fears about terrorism and immigration spreading to the west (though it really just sounds like xenophobia), whereas the Labour leader’s dovish approach, however controversial within his own party, is based on the devastating effects he believes western intervention can have on the Middle East."
Griffin's one tweet is hardly an endorsement given 99% of his views are nearer to right wing Tory.
Even Mrs May has said more evidence is needed in Syria