Comrade Corbychev's Cock-Ups

An M.P. can only put forward an early day motion to debate an issue. They do not have the power to actually debate it if the Govt does not agree

Now you're defending skwawkbox as well as Corbyn on this one - their standards are not very high!

Were any of these actually debated bmacca - what did Corbyn say during the debate?
He was merely a signatory on some of those EDMs and some of them are nothing to do with Assad. Has he ever spoken out against Assad or Putin, or does his 'constructive and proactive opposition to the Assad regime' end at signing an EDM, proposed and sponsored by others, condemning the increase in refugees in the area?
I'm not saying you're lying. I'm saying he has never spoken out against the regime, that I can find. Signing an EDM is hardly constructive and proactive!

He has made numerous Early Day motions (see Hansard if you need proof, as you seem to be implying that I am lying)

someone can make such puerile jokes about Russia

Oh dear trisher. Comrade Putin was purely incidental - the joke is about Corbyn's dithering and wet response to aggression and his avoidance of action.

But you knew that.

Corbyn has been constructively & proactively opposing Assad & Putin since this conflict began.

Has he? Can you link me to anything where he has opposed the actions of either, other than a broad 'everyone is wrong'.

humptydumpty
What do you think Russia is a scapegoat for? Blocking a UN resolution for a ceasefire in Ghouta so that humanitarian aid can be delivered? Blocking 10 previous UN resolutions on Syria, to protect Assad?
No one is scapegoating Russia in my opinion. There's plenty of evidence but I'd be interested to know what you think they're being blamed for that they have not done.

How do you feel when they call some attacks 'fake news' and say it's all staged? Do they have a point, or are they just playing to the tin foil hat crowd?

trisher Still interested to know who 'they' are

Corbyn has been constructively & proactively opposing Assad & Putin since this conflict began. The choice is not between bomb or doing nothing. US & UK media are being dishonest when they present the argument in those simplistic terms. The choice is bomb Syria before any evidence has been gathered through proper channels, or to follow normal diplomatic protocol. Are you all really advocating for an escalation in war?

It is so simple to say they all need to talk, who is going to persuade all to talk followed by getting an agreement, I wish it could be so but don't believe it can be done

lemongrove I have to say that at the moment it seems everybody else always blames Russia for absolutely anything.

I'm not expressing an opinion as to whether they are to blame, but they seem to be the scapegoat - without much hard proof.

Primrose65 Perhaps it is but it is Syrians who are suffering and dying.

The thing is, Russia always blames everybody else for absoutely anything.If they were found with a smoking gun stood over a body, who had been shot at that time and with that calibre of bullet, they would still shout that somebody else must have done it.
What they are doing, with Assad and Iran in Syria is nothing short of evil.When you appoint an ex KGB man as the Leader, what can you expect?
You can’t talk to Russia or Assad or Iran, They will do as they like.
Good to see them shamed at the UN meeting though.

And yes, Israel bombs military bases and Iranian targets within Syria. That's nothing to do with an Israel-Russia conflict, it's Israel-Iran.
Not great, but not quite the same league as dropping chemical weapons on your own citizens.

But who is 'they'. When you say 'they' need to talk, I don't know who you mean.

Its isn't anti- Israel to say they are in conflict with Russia. There are numerous reports that Russia blames Israel for air strikes so even if Israel was not involved there would still be conflict edition.cnn.com/2018/04/09/middleeast/syria-missile-strike-intl/index.html
I know there are many other bodies involved and any discussion must involve them, but it was the stupid posting mocking negotiation that upset me. They willl all need to talkif any resolution is to be found.

The conflict won't be stopped by Assad, Russia or Iran dropping bombs either. By Qatar or Saudi Arabia arming rebels. By Hezbollah working as an arm of Iran. Or by Turkey's involvement. And that's before you start listing all the various Islamic groups like ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Jaysh al-Islam.....

I don't think Israel and Russia are squaring up to each other at all. Israel has been very limited in its actions which I think are predominantly against Hezbollah on their border. Israel has been providing humanitarian aid for ages - field hospitals and food.

Who needs to talk to who trisher? And who gets to decide if it's an acceptable solution? I'm happy to have a proper discussion about Syria, but it's better if you have facts, not just anti-Israel, US, UK rhetoric.

Personally I find it highly offensive that as children are dying still in `Syria, the international community hesitates , Israel and Russia square up to each other and the situation deteriorates, someone can make such puerile jokes about Russia. There will need to be talks at some point. There will need to be negotiations. The conflict will not be stopped by Israel, the USA or the UK dropping bombs and the only way peace is ever acheived is by talking. But carry on. It says much about the members of GN who still remain and the level of discussion that results.

Well, Hope not Hate has said there is not one BNP candidate in the May elections , they must have gone somewhere

Love your scripts Day6

Lemon it had to be tea, the third Mrs Corbyn deals in coffee

No news, except for Barry Gardiner saying the LP Brexit tests are 'bollocks' and Nick Griffin has joined the Corbynites. Broad church indeed.

We are going to build a naughty step in 10 Downing Street



Perhaps today is a jokes day, as there's very little news.

Bet it's herbal tea
Annie, of course, it's herbal tea. Because all proper tea is theft.

Corbychev's Defence Policy, Part II

Comrade Corbychev becomes PM and calls an emergency meeting of Labour MPs.

PM Corbychev : Oh dear. It would seem Comrade Putin is using chemical weapons with gay abandon now. He really shouldn't you know. He is naughty. But perhaps it's not him? We can't be sure.

Comrade McDonnell: Hmmm. I think a few people saw loads of Russian planes and tanks during the last skirmish - BUT - we must remember this could be a Trump ruse and Comrade Putin is entirely innocent.

PM Corbychev : Well said John. We mustn't be too hasty. Comrade Putin is a little bit wild, boys will be boys, ha ha, they tend to love tanks and planes. Pity his mother didn't dress him in a frock and give him dolls, but hey ho. As you are aware -we are trying to teach the world to sing - in perfect harmony. I think Comrade Putin has forgotten my plan.

Another concerned Labour MP: But Comrade Corbychev, Comrade Putin has admitted to maiming and killing thousands in Syria with chemical weapons in his last attack.

Comrade McDonnell: No, that was Trump in disguise.

PM Corbychev: Hmmm. Dilemma. Comrade John - have we got enough dosh in the coffers to make a strike against those unenlightened, violent types in Russia who like hurting people? Tut. We'll show Comrade Putin we mean business!

Comrade McDonnell. No Comrade, but I can tax the rich and any fool who works to buggery if you like? That'll teach them for keeping the economy going.

PM Corbychev: Good plan John. We have to have a strategy which will scare those who carry on being very bad and making the western world just a teensy bit scared.

Comrade McDonnell: Hey, that's almost fighting talk Corby. Are you OK?

PM Corbychev : Oh yes. I have a plan. I can stop Comrade Putin in his tracks.

MPs smile and look encouraged.

Comrade McDonnell: What are you suggesting Jez..I mean Comrade?

Comrade Corbychev: Get the Chief of Defence - that nasty aggressive military bod - on the phone. I'll liaise with him.

^ PM speaks on phone to nasty military person who organises soldiers, guns and tanks and things.^

PM Corbychev : Yes, as suggested I have given the whole Russian aggression problem a bit of thought. Comrade Putin didn't adopt my tea drinking plan (make love not war, dude) so I have got an idea which will put Comrade Putin out of action for a while. I hate doing it, it seems mean but....

We are going to build a naughty step in 10 Downing Street!

That'll teach him to mess with me!

I fully expect Corbychev's transgressions to be swept under the carpet

Absolutely. He's a graduate of the Momentum Cluedo School of Reputation Management. It's always the Blairites, in the mainstream media, with a fake news story.

I could Annie but as you have so often told me responding to questions on GN isn't necessary.
And anyway it's deviating from the OP.
Which is continuing on its usual fantasy lines (Game of Thrones anyone? The plot is better and it's more believable)

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I do hope Corbyn checks it is tea, with nothing added!