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Comrade Corbychev's Cock-Ups

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Primrose65 Mon 09-Apr-18 21:00:15

A continuation of Momentum/Intertia/Magnetism/Elasticity but with a less scientific bias. grin

A thread about Corbyn. For lovers and haters.

Jalima1108 Wed 09-May-18 20:59:09

grin
I think it's good anyway!

Day6 Wed 09-May-18 20:49:42

Sorry - not a lot rhymes with Jez or Jeremy. blush

Day6 Wed 09-May-18 20:48:29

I think we should all write our posts as haiku s. Or limericks.

That might thwart those intent on lecturing us regarding style and content.

A bearded politician named Jez
Went to work one day in a fez.
His hat caused commotion
And gave Diane the notion
He was splendid, like Hugo Chavez.

Iam64 Wed 09-May-18 20:41:34

Mansplaining taken to extremes ?. I’m beginning to wonder whether Grandad is for real

MawBroon Wed 09-May-18 20:11:12

Somehow a GN in the style of industrial, elf n safety prognostications is beginning to lose any appeal it might formerly have had....
As a prose style it leaves much to be desired.

Jalima1108 Wed 09-May-18 20:06:08

discussion?
or dogmatism?
or diatribe?

There is lecturing
Then there is lecturing at

Jalima1108 Wed 09-May-18 20:03:08

[sigh]

Grandad1943 Wed 09-May-18 19:59:17

Quote nigglynellie [ Trouble is Grandad you don't join in a conversation, you lecture and dictate. Your way is correct, your ideas and attitudes are correct, anyone else's ideas and attitudes, including voting habits that don't tally with yours are automatically 'dreadful', in every respect. This attitude does rub people up which is something you unfortunately seem unable to understand.]

Thank you nigglynellie for at last someone coming forward with a substantive post on this matter. I would agree that my wording on any subject can be forceful and can sound over confident and in that dictatorial to others. However, prior to the last few days I have always been respectful to others in this forum and that respect has without doubt not been reciprocated by others but would not place all In that comment.

My style of writing comes from my work (industrial safety) where in a workplace not being clear can mean lives at risk or at least heavy damage to plant and equipment. Therefore, in responding to such incidents our reports have to be confident and assertive, be that prior to an incident (example, safety audit) or following an incident (example, investigation).

The above comes through in all I write, and in that I expect confident, substantive and respectful return posts to myself. However, many on this forum, especially in the political section post unsubstantiated allegations with little thought or respect to those they are responding to.

By example to the above, one post in the above section just stated Corbyn, McDonald, Abbott. In that, my thoughts were "what the hell is that supposed to mean". In any thread I am participating in that as a response to me is not acceptable and I will respond in an assertive confident manner.

To me that is how it should be. If anyone is going to discuss serious matters such as how this country should be run, then let us have a responsible sensible discussion not unsubstantiated rubbish.

Jalima1108 Wed 09-May-18 19:42:41

Apparently I was flighty according to an uncle-by-marriage.
When I got engaged at 21 he was astonished and said 'I always thought you were too flighty to settle down'
grin
Nowadays I think I should have been a lot more flighty than I was.

Anniebach Wed 09-May-18 19:40:46

I am still puzzling about my flighty years , have no recollection of them

Jalima1108 Wed 09-May-18 19:39:41

in the room with everyone hanging on his every word.
There are not many people who can achieve that. Stephen Hawking was one but even lovely Prof Brian Cox can send me to sleep.

Oldwoman70 Wed 09-May-18 19:36:15

Grandad has told us he gives talks (lectures) about something or other - sorry my poor female brain couldn't retain that information. I think therefore that when he posts he thinks he is back in the room with everyone hanging on his every word.

He seems to forget that even those of us who haven't the benefit of a university education are well able to gain information from various sources and form our own opinions - which are equally valid as his own.

Jalima1108 Wed 09-May-18 19:28:48

nigglynellie Wed 09-May-18 18:55:36
Well said nigglynellie.
I have read some very interesting posts on GN - although I may not agree with the views of some of the posters it is always enlightening to hear someone else's point of view and gives me something to ponder.
However, once someone starts telling me what I should and should not be thinking or doing, my hackles rise.

MawBroon Wed 09-May-18 19:23:09

Eek! Its not it’s.

MawBroon Wed 09-May-18 19:22:19

Oh how childish Grandad - grow up and discuss like any normal member. Re-posting adds no validity to what you said before (“he said it once, he said it twice, he said it thrice so it must be true” ?)
And your dictation gizmo apparently needs seeing to as it’s spelling is clearly suffering from stress.
Counceler, mebership and inclueding, to name but three.

Day6 Wed 09-May-18 19:21:41

That's an interesting graph varian. In reply to a reader who queried Corbyn's poor standing Mark Pack (who compiled the figures) wrote

"As you’ll have seen from the above graph, Jeremy Corbyn‘s average is the worst. What this additional graph also shows is that even the post-Corbyn surge, Corbyn is still performing poorly.

He has the worst average, the worst lowest score and also the worst highest score of any Labour opposition leader since this data started."

I have to say I find that quite comforting. The pro-Corbyn hard left hysteria would have us believe he is the greatest thing to happen to Labour since Nye Bevan.

Day6 Wed 09-May-18 18:59:20

Grandad - it may allow you to explain your reasoning in regard to your long-standing membership of a party you constantly criticise so much on this forum

I know Annie doesn't need me to speak for her, but posters who have been using this forum for a while do not doubt Annie's loyalty to the Labour Party over the years. Like many others, the advent of Corbyn, Marxism and so many Labour 'cock ups' (given the thread title) have caused her disillusionment. (Annie has on many occasions outlined her dismay and anger.) I am a floating voter, from a working class family that was staunchly Labour. Corbyn and co do not inspire me either, I'm afraid. They worry me and I cannot contemplate Jeremy Corbyn running the country, ever. You may find that strange but many former Labour voters are distancing themselves from the present hard left set-up. (You will of course remind us again how well Momentum has done in recruiting new members.)

Grandad1943 Wed 09-May-18 18:58:28

Apologies, my above post was in response to Lemongrove @18:38

Grandad1943 Wed 09-May-18 18:56:31

In your above posting I believe you have proven to this forum mebership all I have stated in regard to your attitude to any matter and any person with different thoughts than yourself.

I rest my case on that one without in this post using similar phraseology to yourself

nigglynellie Wed 09-May-18 18:55:36

Trouble is Grandad you don't join in a conversation, you lecture and dictate. Your way is correct, your ideas and attitudes are correct, anyone else's ideas and attitudes, including voting habits that don't tally with yours are automatically 'dreadful', in every respect. This attitude does rub people up which is something you unfortunately seem unable to understand.

lemongrove Wed 09-May-18 18:38:13

Including you Grandad so stop acting like a plonker.

Grandad1943 Wed 09-May-18 18:35:59

Yes, I think your feathers have been ruffled MawBroom. And how can I highjack a thread when my posting just followed what was being discussed by forum members inclueding you.

Some people find it difficult to "get a grip"

MawBroon Wed 09-May-18 18:21:35

Somebody’s feathers have indeed be ruffled ?
(And another thread hi-jacked.)

Anniebach Wed 09-May-18 18:16:09

Off topic but I have been reading an interesting article

‘Why do Narcissists repeat themselves and control conversations ‘

Grandad1943 Wed 09-May-18 18:04:25

I will repost on this thread my last posing on the Pendle counciler thread so all are clear why I have adopted this style of posting: Re-post begins below

Lemongrove, I did not begin posting in this style until you placed several insulting posts against me yesterday (08/05/18). Take a look at your posting on the foregoing date @ 20:12, which was obviously and deliberately meant to be offensive to me but also very insulting to women in general with its "we are all still chained to the kitchen sink" theme.

It was also disingenuous to males by inferring all do not carryout eqaulity in our homes. Some may still not share household duties, but not all of us, and those that do not are rapidly becoming a minority in my opinion.

I will respond to any respectful thoughtful post to myself with the same consideration and respect. When I first joined this forum only a few weeks ago I received praise for the respectful thoughtful style of my posting.

However, in the above I very quickly learned that others (including you Lemongrove) will very quickly not reciprocate that respect when posting in response, especially in a political topic.

So, Lemongrove if you wish to see a "real charmer" to use your phraseology, take a look at yourself.