Now Sajid Javid suffers racist abuse from Corbyn supporters.

Have you heard of a right wing press Annie? What has losing or gaining council seats to do with the very real fact that this government is not only racist but incompetent and inept. Still being a good Labour supporter you agree that it is acceptable to create a problem and then get acclamation for correcting it.

Then if the government is all you claim trisher why didn’t they lose council seats around the country?

I did not say this government is a good government I said the Labour Party has a weak leader who sits on the fence . No use pointing out faults of the government , look at the faults in the labour leadership. I want a labour government you want a far left leader of the party.

So the key to good government is - Create an unholy mess that subjects people to real discrimination, lie to Parliament about things, then send in a new face to clear things up that should never have happened in the first place!!
Result great acclamation from all!!! Who knew?

trisher, pointless wasting time thinking of who should lead the party, if Corbyn did stand down Momentum will choose more of the same, a puppet . We are never going to agree, you want a far left leader I want a centre left leader.

I think the same Oldwoman . I wouldn’t be surprised if he becomes the next leader of the Tory party

Annie name the leader you would see as taking over otherwise all you are doing is undermining the party you claim to love and feeding the need of Conservative supporters. (I don't expect an answer by the way)

Under Corbyn Labour have missed the boat. Failure to deal with the anti-semitism accusations damaged them in the local elections. Sajid Javid has already moved quickly to confirm Afghan interpreters can stay in UK without paying a fee, I believe he will move just as quickly to deal with the Windrush debacle, taking the wind out of Labour's sails.

trisher, all Corbyn had to say was - not in my name, but he chose silence because he didn't want to lose the support he has on line , the support is more important to him than principles . The leader of Barnet council said this morning their loss was caused by the failure to deal with anti semitism two years ago.

If only he would stand down now and the party elect a leader who isn't living in the past,doesn't sit in the fence, and who will realise the party needs votes from around the country , with Brexit, Windrush, the breast screening failure Labour should have stormed through the council elections

lemongrove if you can site any racist policies embraced by the Labour party I am quite willing to examine each of them carefully and consider the effects these have had. In the meantime castigating a whole party and its leader simply because of a few racist rmarks on social media smacks of desperation.

Corbyn is not a rampant racist, he is weak, cannot lead, doesn’t speak out unless he has been tutored in what to say. His experience in politics is doing his own thing his own way , miners rallies, demonstrations, these are his limits. PMQ he reads his questions, who writes them for him?

There are racists in all parties and they all should be held to account. Dislike/ fear of Corbyn personally and his supporters should not mean he is held to be the arch racist in British politics. I agree he should not faff around and should robustly challenge racism both in the government and his own ranks. I am not a supporter of JC or TM btw.

Sajid Javid was racially abused and he asked Corbyn to denounce his racist followers. Corbyn when asked could have spoken for less than 30 second to agree that racism is abhorent but given the Labour shame regarding anti Semitism his words would have been insincere and hollow. He chooses once again to refuse to condemn racism.

Can we not agree that racism exists and I doubt if any political party is without it's closet racists. The fact that some Labour supporters seem to be in denial is very strange. Their riposte is "Oh the Tories are worst" as though that excuses another disgraceful lack of intervention by the Labour leader. It serves to highlight such a blinkered devotion to this man. He is obviously not a leader. He is an old revolutionary with Marxist tendencies who is intent on creating chaos aided and abetted by racist supporters. And that's ok?

He left the Commons chamber because Diane Abbott the shadow home secretary was to speak on the matter which is how it should be under Parliamentary procedure.

Amber Rudd lied (sorry misled) Parliament in regard to her racism (apologies again misjudgement) or was it incompetence and that is the difference in the two parties actions in this racism debate.

Such they are worse than us , so playground , racists are everywhere , all racism is vile. This thread was started because Corbyn would not speak out and condem racist abuse. Instead we get - they are worse, as if that wipes out the fact he had the opportunity to speak out in the house. He walked out when anti semitism was discuss and the defence was - MPs do walk out. This time the defence is - the tories are more racist . This does not make it excusable for Corbyn not speaking out.

Thanks paddyann I was stating much of what you just said earlier in this thread. There are words which can be racist but do little to affect directly affect people in there everyday lives. Then there are direct racist actions which wreck people's everyday lives and which the Conservatives hide under "policy targets".

Of course we all now realize that there are many who would have to come to Britain but have now decided not to because they feel they would be unwelcome but we as a country desperately need. That need is in the maintenance of our health service, in agriculture, in higher science and engineering and the hotel and catering industries etc.

Even in my own industry (industrial safety) we have a huge qualifications skill shortage which is the reason I am still working at the age of seventy four almost every day.

So much for Conservative targets born out of grassroots racism in that party.

Perhaps posters should also be informed of your penchant for writing fantasy land comments paddyann.

Perhaps you should think about your own attitudes Trisher if you don’t realise how much racism and antisemitisn is now to be found in the new kinder Labour Party.

Grandad1943 you should be informed that the tory suppoters on here think Mrs May and her cohorts walk on water ..they cheer her actions in deporting people of different races and colour...its all about getting back the "sovereignty" they always had and the green and pleasant land of fantasies that they insist existed in their youth .

If you don't realise the racism that is inherent in the parties of the right like the Conservative party lemongrove perhaps you need to consider carefully your own attitudes. Under this Conservative government traumatised women have been imprisoned in Yarls Wood Detention Centre, www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/nov/15/yarls-wood-chief-inspector-prisons-report-rape-torture
Women in the centre have been sexually assaulted by the staff there Many of them have been released later without any charge being made.
The tragedies of the Windrush generation are well documented.
Then there is the failure to adequately support EU nationals living here,
The fact that the Tories chose to align themselves with UKIP speaks for itself.
It isn't racism which makes foolish and ridiculous tweets. It is racism that runs so deep and that is so much a part of the party's culture it will probably nevr be eradicated.

You mean that you do Grandad....it’s not the same thing at all.

Corbyn has people in and outside the Labour party that have made racist comments. Theresa May is leader of a Conservative party that carries out profoundly racist actions that wreck people's lives.

I believe we all realise which of the above two parties has the biggest problem within their ranks

Sorry mostly I know you are a JC supporter, but you just have to take it on the chin I’m afraid.

Oh dear lemongrove.

Corbyn, as ever, is as useless as a chocolate teapot, why anyone expects more of him is a mystery!

The ‘people like you’ obviously meant annoying tv presenters!
If he chose to take it as a racial insult, seems he is twisting it to make a sensationalist interview.
It wouldn't be the first time that a tv presenter thinks the world revolves around them.