Why has a woman never led the Labour Party?

Most is - the majority

As varian's statement is backed up by the post ref research into voter characteristics I see no reason why she shouldn't repeat it. Gnetters who pride themselves on their intelligence and right thinking should surely be able to recognise that 'most' is not synonymous with 'all'.

" This was absolutely nothing to do with the EU, but a low level of education, and a habit of reading down-market tabloids helped them to choose "leave" rather than "remain"

Varian you are at least consistent with your opinion of those who voted Leave, yet some on GN deny the continual posting by " some ' Remain voters calling the Leave voters uneducated and I'll informed because of what they can only read.

I find ‘low level of education’ insulting and patronising.

Why is it so difficult for some to accept it was not a vote against Cameron but fear of immigration

There were a lot of poor folk living in areas of post industrial dereliction, particularly in the Midlands and the North of England, who voted leave because they wanted to protest against David Cameron and his government who seemed to ignore their plight.

This was absolutely nothing to do with the EU, but a low level of education, and a habit of reading down-market tabloids helped them to choose "leave" rather than "remain"

...and I did say towns, not cities.

I believe I just made that comment ( all sides of the political spectrum.)

I doubt the majority of Labour voters wanted to stay in the EU considering all the Northern towns that had big leave votes.

Leeds, Liverpool, Manchester, York and Newcastle all voted Remain.

Don't forget that 'the North' doesn't contain exclusively Labour voters. Northern tory and UKIP voters made their contribution, too.

It doesn’t matter of course, because people who voted Leave and people who voted Remain were from all sides of the political spectrum.

Labour heartlands that voted to Leave were Labour voters.
Polls and anecdotal evidence don’t count really, and I don’t think those figures will be accurate to within quite small limits, not at all.

A lot of Labour voters deserted and voted UKIP and then deserted UKIP at the last election.

I agree varian, my friends and family are mostly Labour voters and all voted Remain. We were away with a group of 20 recently, all in our late 60's or early 70's, all LP voters, all totally fed up with the current leadership and the EU situation

You can be sure that these figures will be accurate to within quite small limits. No-one is claiming to know how any individual voted but as with any statistical information, the pattern is clear.

65% of Labour party voters (or about 65%) voted to Remain, as did the majority of LP members and Labour MPs. Since the referendum, they seem to have been sidelined by Corbyn and his team, which is a huge disappointment.

Since the vote was entirely private Varian these figures are from selected polls.

65% of people who voted for Labour in 2015, voted Remain in the EU referendum

yougov.co.uk/news/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted/

Agree with both posts lemon.

Corbyn himself is no fan of the EU and spent years on the back benches saying so.

I doubt the majority of Labour voters wanted to stay in the EU considering all the Northern towns that had big leave votes.

People who actually join a political party are likely to care more about politics than the average voter and to be more knowledgeable. In some parties (but not all) they have a strong influence on party policy.

I find it astonishing that Jeremy Corbyn has chosen to ignore the views of the majority of Labour MPs, the majority of Labour Party members and the majority of Labour Party voters, all of whom want to Remain in the EU.

What I am saying is, that ages of members hardly matters,
An average age of 50 or 60 etc.it’s really only the voters who matter, most of whom are not members of any political party.

There is a difference between members and voters you know Varian.
In the end it’s the voters who matter, since there are millions of them.

"A report published by the conservative Bow Group has revealed that the average age of a Tory party member is now a startlingly high, 72 years old.

The news follows recent reports that suggest the Conservatives have lost nearly a third of their members in the past four years, with membership falling hugely by around 50,000."

evolvepolitics.com/average-age-tory-member-just-skyrocketed-72-seriously/

Now this article was written last October, but it is hard to believe that the average age of a Tory member has dropped 15 years since then. If the Tories cannot be accurate in finding the average age of their small membership, why should we believe any of the figures they produce?

Surely you you wouldn’t swop Corbyn trisher

I know please can we have the SNP as well!

Can I point out that in Scotland ,Labour is dead on its feet.The SNP ,once called tartan tories by labour members is by far the most left leaning party in the country.Help for the low paid,mitigating austerity ,free tuition ,free eye and dental checks etc etc .The SNP have now been the largest party in Scotland for 10 thats TEN years .The general concensus amongst old labour voters is that "we didn't leave labour..labour left US "IF or hopefully when we get independence maybe the Scottish labour party will rethink its manifesto and not just give us the English supporting the tories version which will never win here .