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Jacob Rees-Mogg Moves For Conservative Party Leadership.

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Grandad1943 Wed 23-May-18 17:49:55

With an open attack on Theresa Mays handling of the Brexit negotiations many in the media believe that Jacob Rees-Mogg has made his first open move in a bid to become Conservative party leader and Britain's next Prime Minister.

Rees-Mogg in yet another of his ongoing interviews with the media lambasted "weak" Theresa May for preparing the UK for "Brexit failure". Rees-Mogg stated that with The British negotiators going into each set of negotiations with an attitude of "we will kowtow before you, Mr Barnier in every way you possible throughout these talks" there is no hope of success for the UK. The foregoing are undoubtedly harsh words indeed even from an arch hard line Brexitier, but many believe that there is far more to Rees-Moggs words than just Brexit.

It may well be that this hard line right wing politician has witnessed the way that Jeremy Corbyn has moved the Labour party to the left and now feels he could carry out the same in the Conservative party with the exception of that move being in the opposite direction in regards to political ground.

Evidence to the above can be seen in Rees-Moggs attack on Scottish Conservative Leader Ruth Davison, for in the same interview he stated that Davison should not be allowed to marry her longtime same sex partner as planned. However, same sex marriage legislation was put before parliament and passed in 2013 under the David Cameron coalition government.

In making the above comment Rees-Mogg is undoubtedly looking to damage Ruth Davison, who also is seen as a possible next leader of the Conservative party. That stated, it is also being seen as a move against centre ground Concervatives in parliament.

In the above can be seen shades of Momentum's original moves against centre Blairite MPs in the Labour party.

MawBroon Thu 31-May-18 09:24:39

Yeah, right. One shouldn’t be hurling any insults it is dismissive and frankly discourteous, you wouldn’t do it in a RL face to face conversation, would you?

Anniebach Thu 31-May-18 09:19:18

Does mansplaining include patronising ?

Anniebach Thu 31-May-18 09:03:23

Perhaps.

MaizieD Thu 31-May-18 08:16:22

Perhaps, being a relatively new poster, he didn't realise that that is one of the most deadly insults in a poster's armoury...

MawBroon Thu 31-May-18 08:00:07

No?
I think being accused of being a Sun reader by a total stranger is pretty judgemental hmm

MaizieD Thu 31-May-18 07:58:03

I really don't know why you're attacking Grandad . He doesn't seem any different from any other poster. He hss his own style and his own point of view but so do most other posters.

It's news to me that one has to be on the right wavelength to post. Is there a test somewhere that a poster has to take to establish the correctness of their wavelength with a panel of right thinking posters to assess and grade wavelength acceptability? Do we get a certificate of approval?

At least Grandad doesn't get judgemental about other posters...

MawBroon Thu 31-May-18 07:32:59

mcem smilesmile
Perhaps some feel it is their duty to enlighten.hmm (I love the term”mansplaining”!)
Hope you are mending and beginning to feel more comfortable flowers

Iam64 Thu 31-May-18 06:55:55

mcem, absolutely spot on comment. Mansplaining is tedious in RL but can be interrupted ✋️. Mansplaining on the political or news discussions is doubly tedious. I prefer to read all comments before posting but confess, I failed on this one

mcem Thu 31-May-18 06:49:57

There really is a pattern, isn't there? With a couple of exceptions, men just don't get GN. Mansplaining, innuendo and inappropriate comments - they inevitably creep in after a few posts.
Good luck to the few 'good guys' who do manage to get themselves on the right wavelength!

MawBroon Thu 31-May-18 06:38:21

Is she a new poster?

Jalima1108 Wed 30-May-18 23:17:40

We're still awaiting a response from Janina

MawBroon Wed 30-May-18 22:29:32

Not really, don’t interrupt your ??? on my account.

Grandad1943 Wed 30-May-18 22:20:52

MawBroon, in the pub now, but being at one time the sole owner of the company, now 25% owner and acting in an advisory role it is hardly likely I will be sacked. wink

I am treating the team that have spent many successful hours in what culminated this afternoon to a drink and a bite to eat they thoroughly deserve.

Just had the feeling that you would require further knowledge MawBroon

Goodnight.

Anniebach Wed 30-May-18 22:17:51

I most certaintly wouldn’t do it Maw, I think this is why it didn’t occur to me, I thought he Meant some political group were paying him.

MawBroon Wed 30-May-18 22:07:04

Surely not Anniebach hardly the most ethical behaviour?
People have been sacked for less.

Anniebach Wed 30-May-18 21:41:38

Thanks baggs x. I felt troubled , so he meant he was posting on Gransnet whilst being paid to work , silly me.

Baggs Wed 30-May-18 21:12:45

I think he means he's posting on GN while being paid to do something else, annie.

MawBroon Wed 30-May-18 21:11:20

Only the second forum I have ever joined so still learning
Ça se voit..
My pleasure. .

Anniebach Wed 30-May-18 21:03:40

Grandad1943, please explain who pays you to post on this forum? I am really concerned to learn this .

“He who pays the piper calls the tune”

Baggs Wed 30-May-18 21:01:48

SAM was set up in 2007. Plane shot down over Ukraine in 2014.

If a government applies sanctions to trade with another country do they only apply to new deals after the sanctions are imposed? I'm guessing they would because making them apply retrospectively could be monstrously difficult.

If SAM isn't doing anything illegal re sanctions, what's the problem?

Anniebach Wed 30-May-18 21:00:32

How does one receive a salary for posting on GransNet ? I would love to know

Grandad1943 Wed 30-May-18 20:58:38

Oh sorry, many thanks MawBroon. Only the second forum I have ever joined so still learning.

Anniebach Wed 30-May-18 20:57:36

Oh a speedy exit,

Anniebach Wed 30-May-18 20:56:39

He owns 20% of the company , is that being a major shareholder ?

Grandad1943 Wed 30-May-18 20:56:08

So, offfor something to eat, goodnight all