Jacob Rees-Mogg Moves For Conservative Party Leadership.

I don’t think that analogy quite works Baggs

So if the British army brought down a foreign plane full of civilians, anyone investing money with the Bank of England and other British banks would be to blame? Is that how it works or have I misunderstood something?

Oh come on Grandad JRM is the new darling of a certain group on GN. He can do NO wrong and you are being very very mean suggesting he should take responsibility for anything. Please stop criticising because you know how much I want him to be the new leader. Pretty please

Well, Jalima1108, if you look at the media reports you will see that there is very strong evidence that he has benefited from the atrocity. JRM himslf did not deny involvement on the Andrew Marr program on Sunday. It was then he stated, none of his own money was invested in the bank.

However, Andrew Marr pointed out to him that he benefited from charges made to clients for investing their funds in the bank, to which he made no comment.

I still think that it is a disingenuous statement - inferring that he has profited directly from that atrocity.

nigglynellie, in response to your post at 16:09 today, the allegations against Jacob Rees-Mogg are that his company has continued to invest their clients funds into a Russian bank after the airliner was brought down and the internationally agreed sanctions were imposed.

JRM has stated that none of his own money is directly invested in the Russian Bank, but he does accrue a substantial amount of money made by way of the charges his company imposes on clients for making those investments on their behalf.

His company is still investing clients funds in that bank even today.

Jalima1108, I pasted media links to the the allegations of JRM involvement in sanctions breaking I believe in this thread a few days ago. In the office at the moment (not doing much at moment) but that could change at any moment depending on certain events which we are waiting to hear of.

So, unfortunately on this occasion a self search will be required, but there is plenty of information out there if you Google it

re JC - as a sideline we were amused to hear a caller on LBC saying that he wasn't satisfied with JC. Why? "He's not far enough left for me."
Then the caller gave a few examples of the changes he wanted made, as an extreme left supporter.

But I don't expect JRM supporters to see my side of things any more than I can see theirs.
I'm not a JRM supporter nor am I a JC supporter.

Not being a JC supporter does not mean that I would support JRM and vice versa.

Anyone who may think that must see things in black and white and not notice the myriad shades of grey in between.

Quite simplly do you condemn JRM for gaining financially from the Ukrainian airliner attack ?????
Could you provide some links to say that JRM was directly involved in that atrocity please Grandad.
It sounds rather disingenuous to me.

In fact, it could be argued that the EU set the wheels in motion for that occurrence.

Have to leave it at that then knickas!

Forums will never dissuade people from their dearly held political views. I think JRM is a buffoon. A hypocritical one at that. His only real selling point is his eccentricity. JC I support fully. He means what he says and says what he means. He has never supported the IRA - but supported Peace (won a prize for it dontyaknow). He is a true Socialist. But I don't expect JRM supporters to see my side of things any more than I can see theirs.

The question is quite straightforward anniebach. Quite simplly do you condemn JRM for gaining financially from the Ukrainian airliner attack ?????

For all his investments JRM did not set out to or knowingly bring down an airliner. He did not have any for knowledge that this terrible event would happen, and until recently investment in Russia has been encouraged, yes even by the Labour party. JC however courted IRA bombers after the Brighton bomb attack in the full knowledge of the distress and anger it would cause colleagues on all sides of the House - a deliberate act of cruelty, the same with the disgusting disrespect shown to Tessa Jowell and her family. Frankly how cruel can you be?! Like annie, I too feel compassion for anyone caught up in a dreadful event regardless of which political party they belong to, or where they come from. Yes there were atrocities on both/all sides of the political spectrum in NI. We managed to embrace and do business with Martin Mcguiness thank goodness, despite the atrocities attributed to him personally, so why not the DUP? Goose and Gander, I would have said!

A question? Thank you

Quite simply anniebach do you condemn JRM for gaining financially from the Ukrainian airliner attack ?????

Grandad1943, there was no question mark so I have no idea if you were asking me a question or testing your typing skills.

Quite simply anniebach do you condemn JRM for gaining financially from the Ukrainian airliner attack.

So you will be very upset by the Tory's alliance with the DUP Annie a party with strong links with the Ulster Unionists, sometimes called Loyalists who were responsible for many murders in N Ireland.

Yep Maryeliza , the eating of babies certaintly wouldn’t trouble you

Where we differ is I am capable of feeling sadness for those on that airliner, those who lost friends and loved ones in the Brighton bombing and the family and friends of Tessa.

It’s quite simple , my compassion doesn’t depend on which party I belong to. Sadly you two have yet to reach this level of humanity

I don’t actually care if JC ate babies last week, your ‘whatsboutery’ does nothing to detract from JRM’s hypocrisy

How about a few minutes thought for all those that perished on that airliner and from which a leading member and prospective leader of the Conservative party is making money from?

Corbyn invites IRA members to Westminster days after the Brighton bombing , no regard for the grief of colleagues

How low can a Labour Party leader sink

Some members mock a minutes silence for Tessa Jowell,

How low can Corbyn’s Momentum Party sink

So, investors often do not know where their financial investments are placed, which is a fair comment.

However, Jacob Rees-Mogg as joint owner of an investment company is aware of exactly where clients investments are placed and in that have knowledge that those investments are being placed in Russia organisations which are subject to international sanctions.

Therefore, why does not Jacob Rees-Mogg not resign and sell off all his involvement in the company and therefore be seen to demonstrate his call in parliament for sanctions to be tightened against Russia.

In the above, why have the Conservative party at least launched an inquiry into Rees-Moggs activists when it can be seen he is probably gaining financially from sanctions breaking activities. The foregoing should be especially prevalent when those sanctions were brought in as a response to a Russian missile attack on a civilian airliner in which all on board died.

The above I believe demonstrates the morals and priorities of the people that have taken over the Conservative party in recent years.

How low can the Tory party sink.

That off my chest. Coffee break over, so back to work

What, some MPs make it obvious that they're in parliament for the prestige and the money? It's a very odd way of trying to attract votes.