Jacob Rees-Mogg Moves For Conservative Party Leadership.

As much as I condemn Corbyn for being a hypocrite, he isn’t when he shows his support for the IRA is as strong as ever.

Jalima the Iraq war was supported by both sides of the house .

No - not whilst ab has a free pass to be as unpleasant as she chooses to others

There you go again putting words in prople’s mouths - just try reading what I actually posted

Just think how much the NHS could have been helped by the billions that were spent on the Iraq war.

Eeek. The welfare state continues, that is!

Even Communism proved to be a corrupt , unfair and unworkable system, so not sure why people think Labour has a magic wand and will change things, when the last Labour govt, in power for 13 years, left the country in a mess.

Known Ruth for many years prior to her political career. She is a tremendous person and I wish her every happiness and an easy pregnancy.

JRM is indeed a far more devout Catholic than myself, but I deeply feel that it is unacceptable to pass comment on how other people choose to order their private lives when they do no harm to anyone by doing so. Ruth has not passed comment on his family arrangements or structure and it is beneath his usual courtesy to have dragged hers into it.

More personal attacks , very Momentum

tell that to the vulnerable and disadvantaged

Who have, sadly, always existed. I was one of them.

NO PARTY has erased the disadvantages of society. WE have a welfare state. What more do we have to do other than recognise disadvantage, try to compensate and ensure it continues, along with the NHS.

I was btw, on Incapacity Benefit after illness, as sick as I have ever been and unable to work. Tony Blair's government stopped me and thousands of others from claiming it, before you tell me that only Labourites have compassion - which is a myth, but a good oft repeated soundbite.

I suppose I could be termed vaguely socialist

I have frequently been labelled as communist and 'far left'. It is a silly accusation that some on GN throw at anyone who expresses vaguely socialist principles
I think people may have that impression because you said you followed your grandfather's ideals and politics and that he was a communist.

Perhaps posters got the wrong message from that statement, if so, I for one apologise.

Another personal attack on annie, can't you people just give it a rest!

I come from a family who were at the very roots of labour
that's interesting, I would love to know more about my family's thoughts on this; my father was always staunch Labour.

Perhaps your family and Anniebach's knew each other then, as I think she has said hers were too - who knows!

Whereas the Conservatives are REALLY working for the UK - tell that to the vulnerable and disadvantaged - but then ab you probably agree with most of their policies

I think the rise of JRM is probably being seen as a good idea in the Conservative party. There is after all a gap with the demise of UKIP and if you are looking for votes that might be seen as a real opportunity. I wonder how many letters the leader of the 1922 committee currently holds on Mrs May and if that is what is awaited . Perhaps a few more and she will go the way of IDS.
As for the debate about Corbyn and the "far left" I have frequently been labelled as communist and 'far left'. It is a silly accusation that some on GN throw at anyone who expresses vaguely socialist principles whilst they also loudly claim that of course they care. It's just incredibly dificult to ever uncover what the 'caring' involves apart from loud assertions that they are 'centre left' whilst endorsing policies that have seen the devastation of a caring and supportive state.

Sinn Fein, SNP. Plaid Cymru . Hardly parties which are working for the UK.

In fairness , Paddyann, you couldn’t have been on this forum when Cameron was PM, if you were you either ignore the political threads or have a problem with your memory or choose to post an untruth. Has to be one of these.

Paddyann, do butt out, I will post what and when I choose

Grandad I've said the same thing to AB I've NEVER seen her attack the conservatives over anything on here .I come from a family who were at the very roots of labour and quite frankly my granny would be spinning in her grave at the shambles the party she was one of the first woman members of is in.Labour is NOT an opposition .I am not a memebr of that party I'm Member of the Scottish National party who are by far the most left leaning arty in the UK

I was too young to be involved Yggdrasil, remember the hatred of Churchill in the mining valleys . I don’t think the 1945 and 1951 elections can be compared with all elections since, we had come through WW2.

For me every election has meant a fight for a labour win untill Corbyn, I have never supported communism and cannot forget the damage caused by unions having too much power. I so want a labour government but not a far left government. As damaging as a far right government.

"Yes he got Attlee out ."

Was that good or bad, Annie?

You have had some attention, now enjoy your film.

Yes he got Attlee out .

Anyway, I am about to watch the film "Darkest Hour" on Google play movies. It portrays the first weeks of Winston Churchills premiership. He was also someone the Conservative party thought would never lead the party, and look what happened there.

I have stated that as a "claimed" to be a member of the Labour party she has never stated a word of support for the party she is a member of, or made any criticism of the Conservative party on this forum, at least in the time since I have been a member.
but you haven't been a member for very long as far as I am aware, Grandad.

I was thinking the other day that so much of the vitriol on threads has coincided with the rise of Momentum and the election of Corbyn as leader.
It was never so divisive until then - people debated and discussed without the sheer nastiness that has been evident since then.
If you don't support Corbyn then you must be a Tory apparently.