Inquiry Demanded into Islamaphobia in the Conservative Party.

Grandad, I don’t ‘do’ pack hunting , carry on looking for a hunting pack to join you

One of the joys of gransnet is the way threads occasionally go off OP. I didn’t raise the issue of grooming gangs but I did respond when others did. That’s the way threads go. If you want to start another thread on the issue of widespread sexual abuse and exploitation, Grandad, go ahead. I’ll be surprised if you find any research substantiating your allegation that gangs of white men are targeting Asian girls. Gangs of white men are more likely to target vulnerable children, boys and girls from difficult home backgrounds. I think you used the term “sink estates”. I wouldn’t use a description like that because I know many lovely families, from a variety of cultures and backgrounds who lived on areas that could be described in such derogatory language.

I didn’t read anything unpleasant in Maw Brooks post, I did perceive a threat in the warning that followed.

No one is suggesting that allegations of racism in any party shouldn’t be investigated, thoroughly. It isn’t a competition, is it? To see whether the CP or the LP has the biggest problem.

Yes I am sure I and others very much are?

Wonder away

I find it strange that so many wished to comment on the allegations of anti-semitism in the Labour party that the topic continued for weeks. Many who posted on that subject stated they were Labour party supporters or even Labour party members and yet those very same forum members seem not to wish to discuss islamaphobia in the Conservative party with the same vigour and challenge now.

Instead they seem to want to divert onto Gang grooming etc when anyone would believe that these staunch long-term Labour supporters would be in on the Tory islamaphobia allegations like a lion pack in a hunt.

Leaves me wondering about their so say Labour support?

Which you have placed as more serious than racism in the Labour Party. With respect it seems you are using this as attack on a political party you dislike in every way whilst excusing it in the party you support.

Do carry on.

Grandad, you go on laying the law down about what we can or cannot discuss you may well find you're returning to the subject matter on your own !

As I stated this thread is not about children's care or gang grooming. The topic is allegations of Islamaphobia in the Conservative party

So, shall we return to that subject matter.

I always read Maw’s posts, I read the one you consider unpleasant, I read what is true. We have posters here who have dedicated their lives to supporting children , not as a parent but experienced in their career , with as much knowledge as you claim to have on unions. With respect if you chose to listen to these experts you too would learn much

anniebach, I believe if you or anyone else reads MawBroons post at 17:49 today you will witness that forum member can be very unpleasant and personal in posting.

Now, shall we return to topic, that being allegations of islamaphobia in the Conservative party.

Maw is always truthful, never unpleasant, you have no right to warn her to ‘go careful’ uncalled for and most rude .

Apologies, should be 17:38 above not 17:52. Also MawBroon please stay on the subject matter and not on very personal attack. In that you may not get so upset as you did the other day when your posts are removed.

With every respect of course

MawBroon, your post @ 17.51, I believe if you aquaint yourself with my post at 17:52 you will see that is exactly what I stated.

MawBroon, your above post makes no sense to me whatsoever. Also go careful with the personal remarks once again.

Grandad you cannot be unaware that Her Majesty’s loyal Opposition is at all times required to adhere to the highest standards in exactly the same way as HMG

Grandad there really is no excuse for trying to teach granny to suck eggs. There are indeed among the posters on GN who have had proesssional experience of the grooming issues and cases which are being mentioned.
Perhaps if you listened instead of pontificating as the only fount of wisdom, you too might learn something.

racism on a scale of serious to more serious to far more serious.

No, I am saying that racism in a goverment is far more serious than in an opposition. Of course they should both strive for the highest of standards, but when racism occurs in a goverment it can affect the nation immediately and directly. That cannot happen when a party is in opposition.

What.? Are you seriously suggesting that HM opposition shouldn’t be held to the same standards as the government? Why ever not.

The racism in the opposition party damages the country , how can they point a finger at anyone

So racists in the official opposition party are not as bad as racists in the government . I disagree, that’s just an attempt to distract, there should never be attempts to try to do this.

Racism is vile

Iam64, as I stated in my above post, the Concervative party is the party of government at this time. The Labour party is the not the party forming the Goverment at this time.

Therefore, at present what happens in the Labour party only directly concerns them. However, the Concervative party being the party that governs Britain, what happens in that party can affect everyone living in Britain.

Grandad, I’m aware of the extent of child sexual abuse and exploitation in every culture since the beginning of time. I agree there are huge problems with trafficking and modern slavery.

I agree That the Muslim community suffers hate crime and abuse. I don’t see any need to say it’s worse than anti semitism or to suggest anti semitism in the LP isn’t as bad as islomophobia in the CP.

Iam64, I believe you should read the article at the bottom of this post, for in that it is outlined that there are grooming gangs attached to all ethnic cultures with many of them being white. It also explains how the right wing press in Britain has manipulated the statistics to create an anti Muslim vision that only that culture is involved in this offence.

However, alongside grooming offences there is also the attached offences of people trafficking and modern day slavery, which are again carried out by groups in Britain from all ethnic backgrounds. Many of those are white and those offences are as equally appalling in their nature by way of what is carried out against other human beings.

All vice crime offences are dismaying to those who read of what happens in Britain today, but that is not the topic of this thread. For in that, we appear to have within the governing party of the United Kingdom, widespread islamaphobia being used to promote intolerance and through that political gain.

More members and activists from within the Conservative party have come forward today in the media to give accounts of anti-Muslim actions being used by representatives and election candidates in recent months on more than a weekly basis.

I believe that the above actions are far more serious than the recent anti-Semitism allegations levelled at the Labour party as the Conservatives are the party of government in Britain at present. It should also be remembered that the Tories are a party of only seventy thousand members (according to their own Bow Group) and therefore this sort of racism should be far easier to control as compared to such problems in the Labour party which has over half a million members.

Without doubt an immediate open inquiry should be set up, for this matter is not just about the Conservative party, it is also about the governance of a multi-cultural Britain and the equality of all under that governance.

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