High street store Lush brands the police "liars"

Omission: The above, in bold, by Paul Blanchard.

maryeliza
It would have been perfectly possible to have discussed this issue predicated upon what we can and should expect from businesses and the folly to us of Lush’s behaviour

Examination question? Discuss?

Such control issues.

That is YOUR agenda maryeliza and as you must know by now threads will meander. That may not be to your liking, but it happens. I don't think many people care about what we should expect from businesses with regard to Lush's offensive and bizarre campaign "Paid to Lie" - which btw, will run for two more weeks while they promote the hashtag 'SpyCops' on social media.

What mind-blowing stupidity.

It’s no surprise then that this attention-seeking move has rubbed the public up the wrong way. No organisation is perfect, and the police have an extremely difficult job to do (to say nothing of the pressure and scrutiny they face every day.) What the public have inferred from this incident is that a makeup company known for its commitment to ethics is taking advantage of that reputation to ramp up business, even if that means taking aim at those who keep us safe

Critics of the campaign are calling for a boycott of the chain. My instinct is that it won’t be necessary. Even in a Britain partially fractured by the political developments of recent years, there remains a deserved respect for the police. When a company attacks the police for commercial gain, the public will not take it lightly

www.cityam.com/286803/lush-got-so-wrong-

And just go away with your stupid infantile pathetic comments - at least I can construct an argument

Well, if your abusive comments above are proof of that, I am afraid you are seriously deluding yourself maryeliza.

Mistake? They are to continue this for another two weeks. The excuse that they are good employers etc is no different to saying ‘ he may have murdered his wife but he was always good to his mother ‘

Thank you niggly, I don’t mind police being criticised when they have done wrong. I find this campaign upsetting by claiming police are liars . My husband was young, he was on a drugs raid when he died, this because he wanted to do all he could to stop young people dying. He already had two comendations for bravery. We need to think of the likes of the police officer blinded by Ralph Mout, he later took his own life. So many have died. Not all police officers are liars and I hope the PM and Corbyn condemn this.

I know the guys who started Lush in Poole all those years ago. The company has always been ethical and decent I don’t think it’s fair to compare this with Ratner as he was caught saying his company produces were rubbish!
I believe everyone makes mistakes and this may be theirs don’t boycott them for just this as someone up thread said they do amazing work in the community and are great employers.

F goodness S paddyann, annie's husband was a serving police officer, if you can't show a bit of respect, you could at least be tactful! I am deeply sorry annie for your loss.

Corbyn is not responsible for this company’s attack on the
police force, as they support him he should speak out and say it was unacceptable.

seems Mr Corbyn is responsible for ALL thats wrong in the world .You couldn;t make it up could you? The way some folk constantly harp on about him...and I'm no fan but for goodness sake get some perspective

This will not cause damage , many younger people are anti police and defence such as Maryeliza’s will be used to support this company . Personally I think their action is sickening , my husband who was an honest police officer died on duty , many honest police officers have died on duty . There are corrupt police officers, not all police are corrupt.

Excellent post Maggiemaybe, you're quite right. Had this campaign been aimed at nurses or doctors, there would have been uproar in the media. The police force seems to be seen as fair game though.

The police simply don't enjoy or The police force simply doesn't enjoy, instead of what I've put!

As for the great British public they will huff and puff until well at least tomorrow and then forget all about as usual

Sadly they may, maryeliza. The police simply doesn't enjoy the same level of support as the other emergency services, which is why this action is particularly irresponsible, and also why Lush will probably get away with it. Police officers are heroes for the day when they tackle armed terrorists or are shot or stabbed in the course of their duty, but business as usual soon resumes.

You're right of course about Lush's credentials as an ethical employer, and about the good causes they support, and I would be sorry to see that go. But putting a photo of a frontline officer on a poster with the caption "Paid to Lie" is beyond the pale. Children seeing this will just take it at face value, that the police are paid to lie. And instead of apologising, and acknowledging that they have acted irresponsibly, Lush are still trying to justify themselves. The British public would have been outraged if they'd put up a photo of a doctor or a nurse - "Paid to kill" - casting aspersions on the entire medical profession without clarifying that they were referring to Harold Shipman, Niels Hoegel or Beverley Allitt.

I'm not going to use this issue to knock Corbyn, by the way. I voted for the man (as the lesser of two evils!).

annsixty I completely agree. What makes it even worse in this case is Lush market themselves as being so socially aware. How they can be so irresponsible is beyond me. I genuinely fear that their past reputation for doing so much good may lead those who are easily influenced to be sucked in to the image the campaign displays (whatever its true intentions are)

Lush are my DGD’s favourites . Unlike a lot of other big businesses they do a massive amount of charity work and lead the way on ethically sourced natural products .

I hope sincerely that it isn't forgotten by tomorrow, big business has a huge responsibility to behave in an ethical manner. The public must vote with their spending power and act accordingly.
No more lush products from me until they retract or justify.

Why always so angry maryeliza? This really doesn't need to descend into a vitriolic rant about political persuasions. OP never mentioned anything about any of the political parties in her opening post. If this subject doesn't interest you, just move on to something else.

As for the great Britsh public they will huff and puff until well at least tomorrow and then forget all about as usual

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Yawn yawn yawn Day you have proved my point perfectly

It would have been perfectly possible to have discussed this issue predicated upon what we can and should expect from businesses and the folly to us of Lush’s behaviour without it so rapidly spiralling down to the usual level. I think there is an interesting debate to be had about being a consumer and what would make us boycott a company but it won’t be had on here I’m afraid

Maryeliza, you sound like a Corbyn scriptwriter. Did you help him with his pro-Putin stance at the time of the Salisbury nerve agent poisonings scandal?

Lush may be good employers, and that's nice for the people who work for them, but they have made a very political stance AGAINST the British police force. They have alienated the majority of the UK population I would think.

It is bewildering, and inexcusable imo.

Well as the usual suspects are using this as another Corbyn knocking thread we know what we can expect of the quality of the debate.

Theresa May isn’t exactly a friend to the police either though Day6. Let’s not forget she used a speech to the police federation to announce that the police showed ‘contempt for the public’.

I know only one serving police officer. However he will not vote conservative due to the damage Theresa May did to the force as Home Secretary (that been said, he despises Corbin too, no idea who he does vote for! )

I am genuinely shocked that the Lush campaign has lasted his long to be honest. Thought they would have seen sense by now.

Expect he is waiting to see which way the wind blows Day6