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Taking their phones off them

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maryeliza54 Fri 06-Jul-18 07:18:35

It’s come to something hasn’t it when a group of people supposedly running the country and gathering together today to discuss the most important issue affecting this country and it’s future, have to give their phones in because they can’t be trusted. Heaven help us all

suzied Fri 06-Jul-18 18:38:57

It’s because there as been a history of leaks in the past and TM wants a news blackout. We know these talks won’t go well if they disagree and if they do all agree it will be a fudge which won’t be accepted by the EU.

trisher Fri 06-Jul-18 18:30:27

I think you need to feel a little inadequate personally to find someone mentioning their office condescending. It just makes me think "Thank goodness I don't have that to worry about!'

lemongrove Fri 06-Jul-18 16:44:25

I thinks so sunseeker and that Brid made a valid point about ‘the wording’.

lemongrove Fri 06-Jul-18 16:42:23

Yes, it would be, if they continually said that ilovecheese
Why would we need to know?
It’s something I have noticed that particular poster do all the time with ‘his office’. Seems a very male thing to do tbh.
Of course, he is at liberty to do it, but I and others are at liberty to find it rather irritating and condescending.

nigglynellie Fri 06-Jul-18 16:41:44

Only if they were implying that it made them somehow superior!!!

sunseeker Fri 06-Jul-18 16:41:29

As someone said earlier, perhaps this is due to security precautions with phones apparently being easily switched on and hacked.

Ilovecheese Fri 06-Jul-18 16:30:46

I don't understand the problem with Grandad talking about his office. Surely it's just the same as someone else talking about their grandchildren, it's just part of life.

Or an explanation of why someone wont be commenting immediately, because they have something else they need to do.
Would it be a problem if someone else said they wouldn't be posting for a while because they had to pick up their grandchildren?

trisher Fri 06-Jul-18 16:02:53

There is a slight difference Chewbacca between having your phone on silent and having to give it up, and it's that slight differenc that is being discussed. Phones are also useful in meetings to access relevant documents, e-mails or texts. And are much more environmentally friendly than printing out loads of papers. I can only think that the cabinet cannot be trusted to use them properly. Which says a lot about this government and how divided they are.
But I would like to see all the MPs handing in their phones before Parliament sits. Do they not realise how awful they look tapping away?

Chewbacca Fri 06-Jul-18 15:53:47

Well certainly not true about nurses and teachers as a general rule - depends on employer
It most certainly is 100% true in the schools in this area. My DDIL is a primary school teacher and she is not allowed to have her mobile phone switched on whilst with her pupils. The reason she has been given for this is due to mobile phones having a camera in them and child protection issues. My niece is a Staff Nurse and she also is not allowed to have her mobile phone on her whilst she's on duty. Privacy issues possibly. In addition, I have worked for several employers who have stipulated that mobile phones are switched to silent whilst you're working and we could neither make, nor receive calls during working hours.

nigglynellie Fri 06-Jul-18 15:14:54

Don't be ridiculous ml, people who constantly imply how superior they are as does Grandad, are are just boring and tiresome. I do voluntary work now and again, but I don't tell anyone, let alone make it sound as if I'm superior being because of it!

Bridgeit Fri 06-Jul-18 14:31:58

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GrannyGravy13 Fri 06-Jul-18 14:24:36

Good point Bridgeit

Bridgeit Fri 06-Jul-18 14:15:05

Thank you Lemons,sorry about missing letters, over eager?

lemongrove Fri 06-Jul-18 14:12:09

Sensible point Brid ??

Bridgeit Fri 06-Jul-18 14:09:51

Taking their phones off them ,makes it sound like a necessary requirement, conjures up images of misbehaviour & sly texting, leaking information etc.
Where as if it had the subject been titled ,phones not allowed when conference is in session would just sound like a reasonable hing to do. Do we know which was the case here?

GrannyGravy13 Fri 06-Jul-18 13:59:15

Cannot see the problem myself.

I am sure that I have read somewhere that there are certain restaurants that require you to hand in your phones. I think it is to do with other diners privacy, as nearly every phone is also a camera or recording device.

I personally feel a fabulous sense of freedom when I have accidentally left my phone at home, what a joy to be out of reach for a while. I think most of us on this forum can remember not having a mobile, we managed perfectly well.

maryeliza54 Fri 06-Jul-18 13:53:27

Well certainly not true about nurses and teachers as a general rule - depends on employer.

lemon and nellie your posts are nasty and mean and pretty bloody childish - you’d be ace in the Csbinet

lemongrove Fri 06-Jul-18 13:38:42

niggly grin I agree, we don’t need telling constantly what another poster is about to do, or that they may be back to comment later on, when they are not so busy.

Perhaps it’s for the best, taking phones away and getting on with the business at hand.
They may all be playing Fortnite otherwise.You would be surprised ( I was) at how even people in high profile jobs are doing exactly that.
I play this with DGS who is a teenager and very quick off the mark, whereas I don’t last long at all ( and prefer, once landed on the island, to find a safe house to hide in.)?

Chewbacca Fri 06-Jul-18 13:35:45

The taking of phones away is simply because they cannot be trusted not to leak - it’s not
;about the ubiquitous or inappropriate use of the mobile phone^

Gosh maryeliza, do you know that for a fact? Or is it conjecture?
For the record, supermarket floor staff, teachers and nurses are not allowed to have their mobile phones with them in the workplace. And I'm pretty sure they're "grown ups".

maryeliza54 Fri 06-Jul-18 13:29:21

The taking of phones away is simply because they cannot be trusted not to leak - it’s not about the ubiquitous or inappropriate use of the mobile phone - but because many in the cabinet are a bunch of self serving individuals who can’t be trusted and will always put themselves first. Grown ups in the work place do not have to have their phones taken away from them. What a state we are in

MawBroon Fri 06-Jul-18 13:13:48

GPs of course!

MawBroon Fri 06-Jul-18 13:13:12

Ah but people in offices (and even more important people *in meetings*) are clearly very busy and important people, not like old dears perceived as being at home doing their knitting even if they are qualified consultants, brain surgeons, barristers and judges, social workers, economists, GLs, lecturers or professors.

nigglynellie Fri 06-Jul-18 12:50:51

It would be exactly the same whichever political party were endeavouring to broker a deal! The whole of society from walking round a supermarket to getting married to going to the pub, to going to bed, you name it, the phone is virtually glued to the ear!! Grandad, why do keep making references to your office? We know you still work which is fine, but why do we have to constantly be told that you are in, about to go to, or just about to leave your office? Does this make you somehow more superior to us? or more admirable? Tbh I find it irritating!

Synonymous Fri 06-Jul-18 09:11:49

Perhaps 'they' know some things that we don't know about the capabilities built in to theses clever little devices. Only saying it's a possibility as I really don't know . hmm

Grandad1943 Fri 06-Jul-18 09:07:41

maryeliza54, you are perfectly correct. In our office, our phones are in use continuously for document creation, emails, texting messages to others in the office and even at times calling people on them. They are in our hands all the time. However, when it comes to meetings we all just mute them or just turn them off for the duration.

However in this government obviously the trust is so low between cabinet members that to even have a phone on a member is not trusted and therefore not allowed.