The idiot Trump!

maddyone, very good post. Sick of the criticism of Trump particularly when we host fascists here and there are no demonstrations.

There’s a lot of truth in BB’s post. I might not go along with the bit about Kim Jong but it’s not ridiculous or silly.

What Melania sees in him? Simple! A meal ticket and a life style she could never aspire too. But I bet she never realised the true cost.

Bluebelle, you’re last post is ridiculous.

Starbox, quite!

Jalima, you are so right, I started out feeling that I didn’t much care about the blimp and the ridiculous marches re Trump, but I’ve changed my position because the position so many people so many people have taken, including many on Gransnet, is truly ridiculous. The man is not someone I’d choose for my best friend, and frankly, apart from his money, I have no idea what Melania sees in him, but the description many people give of his ‘crimes’ make me think that they have absolutely no idea of what goes on in the rest of the world. Yes, he’s rude, objectionable, he wouldn’t win any beauty contests, he’s arrogant, and full of himself. He’s not a tyrant, if anyone thinks he is, they should try looking the word up in a dictionary. As for racist, I think we have a few here in the UK. A misogynist, along with a few million others I think, including many from different cultures where to be a misogynist is normal. Separation of illegal adults from their children, it’s been going on for years, and in particular, under Obama.
Perhaps people should get off their fashionable, liberal high horses and behave in a truly dignified way, what has always been called the British way, the stiff upper lip, a bit like the queen, love her or hate her, she behaved with quiet dignity yesterday when meeting Trump, what a shame the rest of us can’t.

Goodness, Bluebelle, what a silly post! Having read several memoirs by N Koreans (concentration camp conditions, starvation, terror, torture, kids in jail...) I can assure you that it's a bit worse than Trump's USA! (Mexicans break INTO USA!) Check out 'Dear Leader' by Jang Jin-Sung, you will be surprised and informed.

Quizqueen, your post of 15.52, thank you for your excellent contribution to the discussion. Also, good post AdeleJay at 14.59.

Hit the nail right on the head fennel he really doesn’t care a jot what anyone thinks of him - “I’m alright Jack” springs to mind

and I don't think he is at all OK, BlueBelle

Personally I think he makes Kim Jon Un seem like a pussy cat
I think that is stretching it a bit far; does he starve the population to keep them suppressed? Or refuse to let them leave?

I do sometimes think that, with the hatred of Trump at such high levels, people are losing sight of the atrocities perpetrated around the world by other leaders.

There’s a few people here I won’t be inviting to my birthday party anyone here who thinks the trump is an ok person don’t apply I can never never never feel comfortable in the company of a racist, misogynist, disabled hater, climate changing disbeliever, immigrant hater ( although he is one) or anyone who believes these things are ok
Personally I think he makes Kim Jon Un seem like a pussy cat

Yes - I remember that! thank you for reminding us Sparklefizz

Now there is a woman I would like to see as POTUS!

I think Michele Obama made a good comment a few years ago which seems to apply here:

When other people go low, you go high

No you are not.

Starbox Totally agree with you. Rather have him for PM than any of our lot, especially commie Corbyn.

I agree with you Conni7 I thought we Brits behaved better than that but obviously not .

I can't understand how British people can be so disrespectful to the President of the United States. At least respect the office even if you don't like the man. What impression of Britain do all these demonstrations give to countries around the world? Infantile? Spiteful? Are we really like that?

Re: separating kids from families. No, none of us like that idea. As a mother & grandma, I agree it IS upsetting. So why do US do it- must cost more in paying carers to mind kids. The facts are: US has a HUGE Mexican immigration issue (think of poor old Italy being swamped as we've seen.) Repeated attempts to enter result in jail (I think they just deport them at first.) That's not unreasonable. And then kids cant go to jail too- care system only option. I see that we cant just go all sentimental & 'let them all in, little loves.' Theyve taken nearly 3000 kids into care in last 9 months. A relative (UK) used to date an illegal immigrant (Kosovo.) He was deported a few times, kept returning & ended up in some centre. He was single, but I assume if he'd had a kid in tow, it wouldve ended up in care. I know it offends our sentimentalism, but there's no way out. (And if Mexicans tell the folk back home what awaits them, I guess it's going to reduce immigration. And Trump has to look out for his own country, not Mexico.

Low class ? depraved acts? perfect description of Trump

quizqueen- very well put.

granny2one - as SuDoku states it is to control her Type 1. My grandson has the same system. Cuts down need to prick finger to test which can damage the nerve ends of fingers. Also, can be electronically connected to alarm to alert you to too high or low sugar. I think she is brave to wear it on 'show' on these occasions but it helps to highlight to young people that Type 1 can be managed.

granny2one The'battery' on TM's arm is an electronic blood sugar monitor, as she has T1 diabetes.

I don't like Trump, his politics, or his stance on immigration etc. plus he is delusional -somehow thinking he is well liked. However I think people's behaviour, the protests, the inflatable baby etc is utterly ridiculous and very disrespectful. We should be showing him a better way to behave not behaving even worse than him. It's making Brits look stupid in the eyes of America and the rest of the world.

Well, the Queen has had to put up with her husband's inappropriate comments for years so it will be water off a duck's back to her and Prince Philip is supposed to have some sort of breeding and knows the protocol.

Not all gransnetters are Trump haters. The comments here are getting rather boring and low class and some incite violence or depraved acts, which says more about the commentators than it does about Mr Trump.

If people actually did their own research they would find
a) Time magazine have admitted that the photo of the 'caged ' child on their cover was fake.
b) Obama and other former Presidents interned illegal immigrants too while waiting decisions on deportation; it's nothing new.
c) When Donald waved his arms about when talking about a reporter with a disability, he was not belittling him because that particular reporter's disability does not make him have uncontrolled movements.

However, let's not care about facts when it's so easy just to believe everything the BBC says and hate someone whom you have never met or are likely to. I also think there aren't many men alive who haven't make sexist remarks about young attractive women. Perhaps even some of them may be your husbands or your sons!!!