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The idiot Trump!

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phoenix Thu 12-Jul-18 18:12:44

Well, according to him, we have voted to "break up the EU"

Erm, no, the vote was just for leaving. Just goes to show how much of a grasp he has.

I despair, that such an ill informed person is in such a position

I feel sorry for the Queen, having to be polite to such a predatory, sexually assaulting, obnoxious oik.

Irene16 Sat 14-Jul-18 11:38:17

White House seems confused too

Twitter gaffe during Donald Trump golf visit
The US President touched down in Scotland last night with the official Oval Office account saying he had "left the UK" after meeting the Queen in England.

Juggernaut Sat 14-Jul-18 11:37:43

Pebbles77
I just can't bear racism of any kind, and the idiot Trump is racist in the extreme.
I'm not a lover of the demonstrations there have been, as far as Trump's concerned, any publicity is good publicity, so he couldn't care less!
My post was really more about the number of Gransnetters who seemingly support a racist slug.

merlotgran Sat 14-Jul-18 11:26:52

Donald Trump, out of his comfort zone, standing in front of the Queen will give her something to chortle about behind closed doors. She probably gave David Attenborough a ring urging him to watch a replay. grin

What did have me holding my breath was the footage of the Greenpeace paraglider floating by and NOT being blasted out of the sky. All those security men, itchy fingers on triggers and DON'T SHOOT, DON'T SHOOT blasting through their earpieces.

Imagine if that had happened in America shock grin

Juliet27 Sat 14-Jul-18 11:23:46

Sadly phoenix I think he'd probably enjoy a right good slap. Maybe a right hook would be better!!

Pebbles77 Sat 14-Jul-18 11:17:06

Juggernaut We have to remember
despite our problems in uk ... believe it or not we are actually the most civilised and London is the most cosmopolitan city in the world ... other countries are just not like us ... we contribute the most overseas aid ... It’s disgusting what happened to the Mexican families and hopefully it will not be repeated and lessons absolutely learned by Trump ... we have to remember we have welcomed a lot worse than trump and not demonstrated against them either such as Mugabe .... He’s not great but the demonstrations are over the top .... but we have had millions of soldiers who died in the war to allow such protests .... ... The UK are not innocent of atrocious actions against other countries ... India for one .... and also when they poor little immigrant lad was shown ... ( I am filling up jist thinking about it ) lying dead in the soldiers arms ... many people on fb couldn’t have cared less and that’s why I came off fb I was totally distraught to see his little arms and legs dangling .... and did this county cry much about that ...?? .... double standards

eazybee Sat 14-Jul-18 11:14:21

Starbox, your post presented some interesting reflections on Trump. I was dismayed when he was elected; I dislike much of what he does and most of what he says, and this trip to Europe has served mainly to display his inadequacies. We are all well aware of his banalities and don't need yet more lists of his 'isms and ists.'

But you are right to say: 'he's got ideas, he's all out for his country. UK can't refuse to engage with a major world power because people take the accepted "we all hate Trump" stance.'

These puerile protests achieve nothing, simply reducing us to his level of rudeness, although the hang glider might make the Scottish police review their security provision.

Like you I hope some useful dialogue comes out of this visit for the USA to work with Britain. Trump is not the only American in discussions with the British this weekend.

GabriellaG Sat 14-Jul-18 11:11:25

You are not alone.
I think he's refreshing insofar that most things he says, seem to be off the cuff, not the rehearsed non-political stuff spouted by our royals nor the indirect, bluffing, gobbledegook which most polititians spout. We almost never get straight answers from polititians as evinced on the various tv programmes. At least Trump tells it how he sees it.

Hildagard Sat 14-Jul-18 11:09:49

Love it ?

Jaycee5 Sat 14-Jul-18 11:09:17

He has imposed tariffs on China but excluded fashion so that Ivanka's new Chinese made products are excluded. It is hard to see why people cannot see how self serving this man is, but so many Americans still think that he is all about them.
I just hope the Democrats step up next time and are spending this time working on listening to people and will have a better candidate with a better campaign next time. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that he will win again.

Fflaurie Sat 14-Jul-18 11:08:09

I think who ever advises Theresa May on her wardrobe should be sacked. She often wears jackets which make her look tied up in the middle. She needs a sensible stylist suitable for a 60+ year old woman.

Momilsom Sat 14-Jul-18 11:03:02

I think the Queen can cope. She entertained the King of Saudi another misogynist and a country with no rights for women.

gillybob Sat 14-Jul-18 11:01:45

Obviously not quite as vivid as many on Gransnet Annie . I really thought he must’ve done something truly horrible to her maj the way people were going on .

Totally agree Lucky talk about a storm in a very posh china teacup !

GabriellaG Sat 14-Jul-18 11:01:37

Re comments about Khan, crime and police numbers. It's numbers and TEETH. Police are far too fond of citing H&S when it comes to giving chase and sentencing guidelines are far far too lenient.

Juggernaut Sat 14-Jul-18 11:00:58

It astounds me that there are some people on Gransnet who can't see what an absolute pig Trump is.
If the only thing he'd done wrong during his Presidency was decide that babies and children should be separated from their parents at the border, then kept in 'cages', that surely would be enough reason to dislike him.
Therefore I can only assume that some Gransnetters don't care about these poor little mites, presumably because they have the wrong colour skin! Whoever you are, you should damn well be ashamed of yourselves angry

Pebbles77 Sat 14-Jul-18 10:59:42

MaggieMay60 I agree !
He just has a clumsy way of saying some things .... I agree .. Sadiq has not done much for trying to at least prevent things and he didn’t exaclfy shout from the roof tops to condemn the terrorist attacks buy Isis .... there are soooo
Many lovely Muslim people about and they would give you the shirt off their backs ... but Sadiq has done nothing in my estimation for London ... I’m not saying he isn’t a nice person he is just feeble in his mayorship .... imho

Lyndie Sat 14-Jul-18 10:58:16

Don’t get me wrong railman. He has his own agenda but he is only scary if governments don’t make the right decisions for all the people. It’s almost like we are being subverted by a group making people look at DT instead of actually looking at what is happening here . Or is it just me?

Pebbles77 Sat 14-Jul-18 10:56:12

gillybob I agree ... The heroes are the people who save lives . Just like the rescuers and the poor gentleman who died in the process trying to help the Tai children bless him .... I had a lovely American lady who visited .. long story but we connected on internet as we had both been through terrible grief and I said come and visit ... it was a joy to see he react to Buckingham palace .. she was transfixed at the gate lol ... and she could not believe it when she saw how much Tea we actually do drink here ... “ wow it’s not a myth ! “ she said lol ... it was lovely to see her reaction to London in general to be fair and she was even fascinated with the telephone and post boxes that we have ( the old red ones ) ... and where I worked a few years ago a colleague went to Florida to get away from Prince Williams wedding and the Americans could not believe that she would want to be away for a Royal Wedding ....

GabriellaG Sat 14-Jul-18 10:54:24

MaggieMay60

You're totally wrong to say that Trump saying Saddiq Khan is a terrible Mayor for London, equates to him being racist.
It's not a racist remark.

Margs Sat 14-Jul-18 10:51:36

Someone on the radio commented yesterday about how his wife, Melania (is that spelt right?), always but always looks anything from nervous to outright terrified.

Well, wouldn't any woman be persistently on edge if married to a man with an apparent Henry VIII mentality? He does what he likes, says what he likes, tramples over any opposition (or anyone who should try to voice an alternative opinion), is so very mercurial it's unbelievable, and poor Melania is his third wife (fourth?), so no wonder she seems to be tip-toeing on eggshells.

Well, at least she can look forward to a big pay-off when the divorce comes along.....

And at least Tantrum Trump can't have her beheaded.

Luckygirl Sat 14-Jul-18 10:51:08

It does seem a bit of a storm in a teacup - I have just watched the incident and the queen gestured for him to walk on (good dog!) and he did.

Anniebach Sat 14-Jul-18 10:50:33

You have a vivid imagination gilly

gillybob Sat 14-Jul-18 10:47:39

Well I finally found the actual footage and talk about exaggeration! He looked like he wasn’t quite sure where to be and the queen slipped behind him very briefly . From what some are saying I thought he must’ve pushed her out of the way, kicked her in the shin and left her crying. Jeez.

GabriellaG Sat 14-Jul-18 10:46:31

Melania's cream suit skirt was waaay too tight across her bottom. You could clearly see the outline even when she stood straight, legs together. Dreadful tailoring and as fir her OH, he never fastens his jacket because it would pull the buttons. He fancies that leaving it loose gives tge illusion that his bum doesn't look big. Haha.
I noted that his trouser legs look HUGE compared to the size of his feet and, in one photo with Mrs May, his suit jacket is puckered all along the lapel and breast pocket as if the buckram (or whatever the stiffening) has not been tailored properly.
Whilst I'm at it, Mrs May's red dress was awful. She was tightless and the fit? was absolutely awful. Her upper arms showed a demarcation line where short sleeves end.
The black trousers she wore with the red jacket, were very baggy round her bottom, not the right material which holds it's shape. Altogether, she's a mess, clothes-wise and she slouches. An awkward, gawky, indecisive stork.

starbox Sat 14-Jul-18 10:45:40

You've put it in a nutshell, widgeon3 !! Seems once it becomes the accepted line to diss someone, that's OK. Can you imagine the furour if we did all this to leader of a strict muslim nation (where misogyny etc are commonplace!!) You know what: the important thing is whether Trump achieves for his country. And if he's arrogant, disparages women, other races...well, better that than a politically correct charmer who doesnt really do anything.

railman Sat 14-Jul-18 10:45:27

Lyndie - I suspect you may be able to understand the 'vitriol' here against DT. We have all been fed a fairly capacious diet of his "Tweets", randomly interpreted by various political experts to support their own subjective opinions.
His lack of diplomacy is taken by some as refreshingly forthright - others simply see it as rude.
No, our own politicians and the media are highly skilled in the area of evasion and subversion when and where it suits their personal and/or party agenda.

Your observation that -Lots of companies here are American.- is true to some extent, but the likes of say Cisco Systems, a global telecoms giant, IBM, Dell, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, etc., etc. have space in the UK, but their EMEA headquarters are inevitably in other EU countries, whether it's Ireland, the Netherlands, or elsewhere.
Whether the 'hard Brexit' occurs or not, they will still operate outwith the UK for administration and headquarters purposes, and if it becomes costly, they, like Lloyds of London may consider relocating some of their operations elsewhere in Europe.

DT's support for Brexit has nothing to do with any "special relationship" with the UK, and everything to do with the disruptive geo-political strategy both he and Vladimir Putin are deploying.