No disclosure restriction on Windrush victims

You can suggest what you choose OldMeg, and do read all the posts, trisher brought anti semitism in it not me.

Anyway , do take care

Bloody hell! This is discussion about NDAs and the Windrush not about one person’s obsession with Corbyn bashing,

That’s it! You’ve fnally driven me off GN with your persistent drivel Annie. So as this post will doubtless be deleted and as I don’t give a toss, can I suggest your obsession is almost reaching unhealthy levels.

Try quoting the whole sentence and not part of it Annie. Now you've brought racism up let's consider things, the Windrush generation are black. Now if there is racism it could be that the media (and especially certain papers) prefer not to report black issues because its audience wouldn't like it. However that doesn't explain the attitudes of yourself and lemon to the problem-or does it?

To quote Corbyn - anyone who denies this has surfaced within our party is contributing to the problem

If it exists trisher? you are in denial , racism hurts, racism harms , racism kills, denying it exists is supporting racists,there is no such thing as degrees of racism, it exists or it does not,sadly you are supporting racism in the party you claim to support .

A trump supporter said on being asked about trumps antics with Russia said, it doesn’t matter, we won.

If it exists Annie and lemongrove it is the sort that needs careful analysis of a definition and does therefore not directly impact on people's lives. Whereas these people have been actively discriminated against and are now being asked not to tell anyone about it or to have their payments delayed. I ask once again why are they not all over the news?
Google it lemon it has been in the Independent and the Guardian.
There's also a story about a man who died. His British citizenship was removed, he fought for 10 months, but didn't see a doctor because he thought he wouldn't be treated. He died of a heart attack. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/20/windrush-mother-wants-home-office-role-in-sons-death-looked-at
Why is all this just in the inside pages?

No idea why there are NDA’s put in place, must try and read more on this story ( assuming it’s true.)

Corbyn has said there is no denying it trisher ( antisemitism within the party.)

trisher, Corbyn has said anti semitism exists in the party , he did not say there was a possibility it exists , you are failing to obey his instructions, naughty

Annie the reason I said possibility is because what is being discussed is a definition many find unsuitable. I have yet to see one Jewish person give evidence of real language or actions by a LP member which has impacted in a major way on their life and which has not been dealt with. Whereas we have people from the `Windrush genration who have been denied NHS treatment lost their citizenship and been unable to enter the country, and are now being 'gagged' by this government. Why I wonder are they not all over the news?

Like all of us I don't know the in's and out's of this story, all I would say is: I hope they have a good lawyer to go through the agreement with a fine tooth comb, there's no telling what rights they might be signing away?

My understanding is that Non Disclosure (or Confidentiality) Agreements are used to prevent a person from discussing anything relating to the claim for which they are to receive compensation, including, I think, the amount being paid to them.

They are also used to keep under wraps the grounds for the compensation payment (NDAs are alleged to have been demanded in relation to allegations made by various women in relation to Trump's conduct). The fact that they are being used re Windrush claims does seem rather odd.

Has any government spokesperson explained why people are being asked to sign these NDAS? People who have been badly affected by this scandal, eg sent to detention centres, lost their jobs, etc., may be tempted to comply because they badly need the money.

Apologies. I was confusing the two. Scrub whatever I've said...

You've got a thread on that try discussing this government's actions instead Annie as a true Labour supporter I assume you find their behaviour unacceptable? But perhaps not.

Unbelievable, ‘ the possibility of anti semetism in the Labour Party’

you jest trisha, or you believe Corbyn is lying ?

MaizieD

MaizieD
I think you are confusing Greenfell and Windrush.
A number of bogus Greenfell victims have been identified who received hundreds of thousands in compensation. These are currently being prosecuted.
I think those dealing with Windrush dont want the same problems. After all, its taxpayers money that is being given in compensation.

Anyone know if lying to a select committee is a sackable offence?

Oh trisher, don't be naive.. Nothing is a sackable offence in this government

Doesn't government already know who the Grenfell survivors are? I seem to recall some publicity recently about bogus 'survivors' being identified. If this so there should be no earthly reason for bogus claims.

And if they don't know then they damn well should after a whole year...

Paddyann
Did you say that those asylum seekers were living in free housing provided by SERCO for that purpose and especially those already granted resident status should have found alternative accommodation to free up the properties for those who followed them. There was never the intent that these properties would become permanent residences.

ilovecheese
understand what you mean Joelsnan how can being told to keep your mouth shut have anything to do with whether or not a claim is genuine

It is not whether their claim is genuine, if they are asked to sign an NDA its obvious that they have a genuine claim.

They are probably being asked not to disclose what response they gave to questions and any other evidence which may enable bogus claimants to prepare.
I am sure these NDAs will have fixed terms until all bona fide claims have been closed.

Corbyn told a select committee he was wrong when he called Hamas and Hezbollah ‘friends ‘ , was he lying or has he change his views ?

they're all heart this tory government...the home office instructed 300 asylum seekers/refugees be turfed out of their homes.What they didn't check was that over 100 of them had already been granted asylum.Thank goodness we dont sit back and let these things happen we've been protesting all week and the firm who were to change the locks have backed down .for now.We really need control of our own immigration policies ,Westminster's attitude towards human beings stinks

And Sadiv Javid did say to the select company that there weren't any NDAs when there were. Anyone know if lying to a select committee is a sackable offence?

I don't understand what you mean Joelsnan how can being told to keep your mouth shut have anything to do with whether or not a claim is genuine.