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No disclosure restriction on Windrush victims

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trisher Sun 05-Aug-18 14:40:37

Well as the media debate and pontificate over the possibility of anti-semitism in the Labour Party the government has once again taken another unspeakable decision and is asking victims of the Windrush debacle to sign Non disclosure agreements if they want an early payment. The Home Secretary told a select committee just 3 weeks ago that this wasn't happening, but it seems it is. So a government minister can lie and people who have been treated very badly can be forced to keep silent, or have to wait longer for compensation, and it barely makes the news, whereas discussions within the LP are front page. The possible suffering of some people it seems is more important than the real suffering of others.

lemongrove Tue 07-Aug-18 18:31:45

Exactly!

Anniebach Tue 07-Aug-18 18:20:36

An opinion doesn’t have to be supported surely, stating something as fact does.

Jalima1108 Tue 07-Aug-18 18:06:44

I like Jeremy Corbyn btw - he keeps me amused as he flounders around out of his depth..

Jalima1108 Tue 07-Aug-18 18:05:54

It's my opinion that Corbyn et al are lurching from crisis to crisis.

However, that is just my opinion and I cannot substantiate it by a link to The Guardian.

trisher Tue 07-Aug-18 16:42:47

Possibly only because the Guardian and the Independent picked it up lemon the rush to blacken I must remember that the next time posters present unsupported opinions on someone. As for this government no one needs to rush, they are the gift that keeps on giving as they lurch from one crisis to the next.

lemongrove Tue 07-Aug-18 12:33:12

It’s all about the rush to blacken Jalima and the eagerness to believe all that fits your own agenda.
There are no doubts expressed by trisher in the OP it was a case of ‘this is happening right now folks!!!!’
Well, it isn’t.
Check properly next time is very good advice.

Jalima1108 Tue 07-Aug-18 12:28:21

The quote from the Guardian stands IMO as more than contemplation. It stated quite clearly that “several Windrush citizens had been paid some compensation by the Home Office, but then asked to sign an NDA”

Again - the MSM

The Guardian is no more to be trusted as a source of true information than any other rag.

OldMeg Tue 07-Aug-18 10:29:04

What does being a ‘new’ poster have to do with anything lemongrove? In fact I’ve been posting for nearly 9 months now so assume I’ve earned my right to post my opinions by now?

The quote from the Guardian stands IMO as more than contemplation. It stated quite clearly that “several Windrush citizens had been paid some compensation by the Home Office, but then asked to sign an NDA”

Or shall we just dismiss that as Trump-like ‘fake news’?

I agree with trisher that this was trialled - hence the report from Windrush citizens - and then it was dropped when they realised it was just another of their ill-considered ideas.

It certainly doesn’t require any stretch of the imagination.

Anniebach Tue 07-Aug-18 10:26:30

True Jalima

Jalima1108 Tue 07-Aug-18 10:25:21

What can be learned from this thread?

Do not take at face value everything that you read in the MSM.
Do some research first

Anniebach Tue 07-Aug-18 10:13:40

Like Labour was going to discipline Margaret Hodge but then decided not to

trisher Tue 07-Aug-18 09:33:25

The one thing I do admire about this government is its ability to squirm out of things asap. They are able to alter policy if it suddenly dawns on them that the cat is out of the bag and people actually know what they are up to. Of course they weren't just contemplating it, they trialled it and word got out, so they dropped it like a hot potato. If you want to use the bathroom analogy, it's as if you had squirted bleach down the loo, then suddenly realised your visitor was an environmentalist and tried to wash it away.

lemongrove Tue 07-Aug-18 08:27:16

It doesn’t matter what governments contemplate, it’s what they actually do.
I often contemplate not cleaning the bathrooms....but then think better of it.

lemongrove Tue 07-Aug-18 08:24:05

OldMeg I don’t happen to be ‘ far right’ just as you may not be ‘far left’ ( although if you are a Corbyn fan, you may be.) You may also ( or not) be new to GN for that matter.

I simply like to get facts straight before I dive in.Reading something ( even in the sainted Guardian) is no guarantee at all that you have the facts. Read the link from Joelsnan.

Eloethan Tue 07-Aug-18 08:16:15

Yes, welcome back OldMeg - said with sincerity, not sarcasm.

OldMeg Tue 07-Aug-18 06:13:07

The Guardian revealed last month that several Windrush citizens had been paid some compensation by the Home Office, but then asked to sign an NDA, to the concern of others still waiting for assistance.

End of? Really?

OldMeg Tue 07-Aug-18 06:10:53

Oh squeals from the far right at the very suggestion that May’s so called ‘government’ could contemplate such a policy!

lemongrove Mon 06-Aug-18 22:48:53

‘Sounds quite within the remit’ etc.
Amusing, .....sounds like the kind of thing they would do, very fact based!
They didn’t !
The OP says clearly that they are doing.
End of non story by OP.

OldMeg Mon 06-Aug-18 22:30:05

A policy can be a proposal lemongrove - and somehow this sounds quite within the remit of Tory thinking. It has doubtless been put back into the murk from which it first emerged precisely because someone ‘set off the cannon’. Otherwise it might have slipped in unnoticed in exactly the same way the whole Windrush Scandall did.

Anniebach Mon 06-Aug-18 19:58:54

Welcome back OldMeg, a very short leave

lemongrove Mon 06-Aug-18 19:56:39

This is exactly the sort of ‘news’ that needs careful looking at before settting off the cannon.

lemongrove Mon 06-Aug-18 19:55:19

It hadn’t happened, so not exactly policy reversal.
Lots of things are talked about when dealing with any claimant situation, and if it had been the policy and was being implemented as the OP suggested that would have been a different matter entirely.

OldMeg Mon 06-Aug-18 19:49:57

Nothing like a bit of unwelcome publicity shining a light into dark corners to have policy reversal is there?

OldMeg Mon 06-Aug-18 19:48:07

I fail miserably when I googled for info ah! That explains a lot!

Joeksnan shame in you posting kinky links ?

lemongrove Mon 06-Aug-18 19:47:32

I think all need to read the link before anyone else weighs into this debate.