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Chewbacca Tue 07-Aug-18 23:41:51

Every woman, and man for that matter, has the right to dress in whatever way they choose, with no exceptions. How someone feels, when they look at that person; whether it's because they're dressed in a mini skirt and tight boob tube, a burka or a mankini, is also their right. I don't think that anyone, including BJ, has said that burkas shouldn't be worn have they?

Eloethan Tue 07-Aug-18 23:33:51

Just the usual racist rubbish from Boris Johnston, the most recent in his long list of insults.

The dress police are back on the case again - either women are wearing too little or they're wearing too much. Perhaps someone should write a list of rules as to exactly what is and isn't acceptable attire for women.

Chewbacca Tue 07-Aug-18 22:18:40

I feel the same way Jane10. Whilst I appreciate that every woman has the right to dress however she so wishes, it makes me deeply uncomfortable when I'm unable to see the facial expressions of the person I'm speaking to. I find the burka, particularly when its totally black, to be quite intimidating and scary, especially when you can't even see eyes because of the mesh screen.

GillT57 Tue 07-Aug-18 22:08:32

Boris is not necessarily anti Muslim. He is however very pro Boris and that's what this 'look at me' journalism is all about.

Jane10 Tue 07-Aug-18 22:03:53

I think he's a prat too trisher!

trisher Tue 07-Aug-18 21:59:41

Jane10 I don't think it's racist or anti-Islamic. A few years ago I was in Tunisia where our Tunisian guide was very insistant that the veil and the burka had no place in Tunisian culture or in Islam. So much as it would please me to say Boris was anti-Islamic I find I can't. I do still think he is a prat though.

GillT57 Tue 07-Aug-18 21:33:16

Nasty comment eazybee.

eazybee Tue 07-Aug-18 21:26:12

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GillT57 Tue 07-Aug-18 19:17:58

Boris is a professional journalist and nothing was written by accident. Yes, he was arguing against the Danish edicts but then threw in the personal comment sbout "letter boxes". I think this was all to bring him back to the fore again, to get him discussed in the news.

Jane10 Tue 07-Aug-18 17:59:27

He'll never get the leadership of the Tories. They know fine well what a liability he is.

Riverwalk Tue 07-Aug-18 17:55:56

I don't like face veils - in the main they're worn in this country by women who should know better! Likely that they have mothers and grandmothers who didn't even wear a headscarf. But if that's their choice.

I loathe seeing primary-aged girls in hijabs, and this I would like to ban.

Johnson was being his usual duplicitous self - with half an eye on the Tory leadership.

He knew full well which of his words would make the headlines.

eazybee Tue 07-Aug-18 17:49:19

"I'm sick to the back teeth of the BBC and its reports of Labour's anti-Semitism - let's see if they make as much fuss of the Tories anti-Islam."
Oh yes they are, trying desperately to divert attention from Corbyn.

Jane10 Tue 07-Aug-18 17:43:52

I was out walking one day in our quiet suburban area, turned a corner and came face to face with a person in a full length burka with one of those little mesh eye slits. I had a real fright. I'm not being gratuitously offensive but my instinctive reaction was that it was a dalek! It felt intimidating. It made me feel that there was something somehow unworthy of me that I couldn't be shown this person's face. I'm being honest here. This was quite a shock reaction.
I've travelled widely in Muslim countries where this covering up doesn't happen. A Muslim friend was very scathing about this as a 'throwback to when people were in the desert in the middle ages'. Not my words. I was very interested in her reaction.
I suppose I'll be shouted at and called racist but I think quite a few people are wary of not being allowed to see people's faces.

Fennel Tue 07-Aug-18 17:24:45

"I'm sick to the back teeth of the BBC and its reports of Labour's anti-Semitism - let's see if they make as much fuss of the Tories anti-Islam."
Me too Riverwalk.

JenniferEccles Tue 07-Aug-18 17:21:46

I must say I was surprised to hear Boris' comment.

In this intensely politically correct age we are now living in, where politicians a terrified of saying anything remotely controversial, a comment like that is rather a shock.

I don't think even Donald Trump would dare to go that far!

Riverwalk Tue 07-Aug-18 16:39:08

Boris Johnson was being his usual shifty self - saying it was wrong of Denmark to ban the face veil but making headlines with 'bank robber' and 'letterbox'.

I'm sick to the back teeth of the BBC and its reports of Labour's anti-Semitism - let's see if they make as much fuss of the Tories anti-Islam.

Cherrytree59 Tue 07-Aug-18 16:33:04

I read it that all be it that he made it in true BJ fashion, He was actually supporting the right of women to wear Islamic dress and was actually criticising Denmark.

MaizieD Tue 07-Aug-18 12:01:26

'Naughty schoolboys' is a far too indulgent term to use. Naughty schoolboys don't have much effect on anyone but their friends, family and teachers.

Boris and Trump are evil and corrupt grown men who should be removed from any position of responsibility and influence.

travelsafar Tue 07-Aug-18 11:37:46

I see they are at it again!!! Niqabs and Iran.

These two are like naughty schoolboys always searching for attention even if it is the wrong kind.

Trouble is they can could cause major problems for the world.