Corbyn / BBC declare social class of employees?

I don't think I have ever said that it is wrong to look for equal opportunities, or denied the benefits of socialist policies - well, also liberal policies, because there were liberal with a small L reformists and reformists of other parties long before there were socialists as such. I don't even see very many posts which veer towards views like those Trisher says are rampant on GN.

What I am cautious about is the drive toward the state collecting every detail of everyone's lives for the ostensible purpose of giving everyone those equal opportunities. The good intention is there, but it is open to abuse. The data collected could also be used to identify and penalise groups and individuals that seem to be a threat to those in power at any given time.

There has never been a Labour Party with a communist leader and the present leader has surrounded himself with like minded people. The communist party announced they would not field candidates at the last election, normal practice for the communist party?

Why is Corbyn a "champagne socialist"? Is there any evidence that Corbyn has the sort of lavish lifestyle which would earn him such a title?

As for Venezuela, Wikileaks published information that revealed the US's intention to destabilise the country using a number of methods, including sanctions and the funding of opposition parties. It isn't by any means the first time that the US has interfered with countries with which it is politically at odds.

Oh come off it Annie there have always been communists in the Labour party and many of them have held positions of authority, but strangely enough we have never had a communist regime. Even if Corbyn is (and I don't believe he is) a communist, he isn't able to institute a communist regime all on his own. Or do you think the Rusian revolution (which is one of the few communist victories) was all the responsibility of one man and nothing to do with a whole country revolting?

Venezuela is a different place and needed different measures. I have yet to see a reasonable post that explains why it is wrong to look at equal opportunities, or to maintain the policies which have led to the real progress most of us have experienced in our lifetime.

Trisher, you really believe every new government sticks to its manifesto. The manifesto is to garner votes, I am sure if Corbyn is elected he will carry out part of his manifesto, it’s what he has not included - and his belief in communism - which really frightens me.

I have been a member of the Labour Party for over 50 years, I dread Corbyn and his cronies leading the party into the next general election, a man who can admire the president of Venezuela, praised it as an inspiration to us all . This is far left politics , Corbyns politics.

If you can identify a single communist policy in the Labour Party policies Annie would you please name it (but I think we've been here before).

GrannyGravy13 I for one came from an extremely poor family situation, my Mother drummed it into me from an early age that education is key - and it was and still is
Thanks for that are due to a socialist government I hope you realise. Or do you imagine that education of the poor was always free and accessible?
But you would deny the working poor proper care and support? Do you not know how many of these people are suffering under this government and are using food banks? Poorly nourished children make slower progress at school and are less likely to acheive academically.

There are left wing policies and far left policies, the latter being communism

Oh I agree Jaycee5 but I still think it is sometimes worth pointing out the blatantly obvious to some of the old farts who think they are somehow about to be overrun by the proletariat, and reminding them that they would probably be dead, or starving, and certainly not living such a comfortabe life, without the policies they so despise is sometimes necessary. Who knows it might stir the conscience they have buried somewhere under their complacency???

I for one would not deny any child the right to better itself. I suggest you speak to their benefit manipulating, work dodging parents, and ask them why they do not put their offspring first.

I for one came from an extremely poor family situation, my Mother drummed it into me from an early age that education is key - and it was and still is.

I have more sympathy for the working poor, who work,their socks off, passing like ships in the night to 2nd jobs, juggling childcare. Then their taxes go to the benefit system, some are obviously in need of benefits, pip etc, and they need our help and should be a priority.

I am fed up with being preached at by the new wave champagne socialist class, and sincerely hope they do not,get into power. Present government are not great, but better than the alternative.

trisher Valiant try but you are fighting a losing battle on GN. I think it is because most people even mildly on the left have given up by now because it can get quite unpleasant as you can see.
It is no surprise that the Tory party gets more money from the dead than the living. It does mean that things are finally changing.

JenniferEccles if you can give me an instance of anyone in this country who hasn't benefitted from left wing policies in the past I will acknowledge that I am wrong but actually the whole basis of today's society is built on those policies and calling people names won't change that. I am proud that I recognise the history of socialism and what it did for me and my family and that I that I wish my children and grandchildren to live in a similar society. The fact that you deny those policies and do not recognise how we reached where we are now doesn't mean it didn't happen, only that you are uninformed or wilfully ignorant. You were raised on welfare orange juice and free milk which was only available because of lefties like me.

Oh dear, here we go again. These Lefties never stop, do they?

I give up. The generation that were brought up under what could be described as the biggest social engineering regime in the world want to deny the same rights and opportunities to their children and grandchildren Instead they create imaginary regimes where freedoms are restricted and rights abused. Do you not get it? You are where you are today because you grew up under a socialist system, where your parents and you had free access to healthcare, education, and the opportunity to progress in life. These are now being cut back and we are seeing a return to a society where children are underfed, where the poorest suffer, where ability doesn't count only your parentage and the rich continue to prosper. And you waffle on about how afraid you are of communism and Korean regimes. But then I suppose it's OK for you, you've got what you want, the pity is that you would deny the same opportunities to others. And if you have to spread lies and fantasy to do so then so be it. I just wonder how you sleep at night.

gilly Well you would be accurate as I have got them! I'm fair skinned and as the sun pops out, so do the freckles. I was teased so much about them at school.

Lets hope so JenniferEccles .

Why do I keep wanting to type "freckles" when I see your name

I said he was accused Annie, which was something to do with being paid in Switzerland and not paying tax in Denmark where it is much higher. I did not say he was convicted of anything but did go on to pay a voluntary amount "to avoid any confusion" He apparently went to great lengths not to spend a day longer in Denmark with his family than would allow him to get away without paying Danish taxes. There was also a lot of house ownership "jiggling" going on. In other words a huge can of worms and more twists and turns than anyone can keep up with.

He was also accused of hiding his daughters £29,000 private education from the selection committee.

Surely the latest news of the awful situation in Venezuela will ensure that Corbyn's particular brand of Socialism will die, given his well publicised praise for that country's regime?

gilly, his wife was running for the position of PM of Denmark at the time, it’s called politics, you forgot to mention he was cleared of the allegation.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/denmark/7854836/Lord-Kinnock-son-accused-of-tax-evasion-in-Denmark.html

He was accused Annie and I did not say he was posh !

Well, it’s Corbyn isn’t it....to be expected, An under achieving student from a well off family, becomes a Trot,
A one man protest party who rebels against everything.
The LP, in electing him have started a Greek tragedy.Or an Orwellian nightmare.

He wasn’t a tax dodger gilly.

I have rabbited on about the real threat of a Corbyn run communist country for ages, it’s getting closer