Corbyn / BBC declare social class of employees?

What I have earned over the years together with my present income is nobody's business. I know the amounts involved along with my accountant and the tax man.

People who work have different incomes, always have and always will.

Some people are genuinely unable to find work, they have my sympathies and more should be done to help,them.

Some people have absolutely no interest in getting a job and 'bettering' themselves, that is a fact. They are the ones who have 'manufactured ' a 'class' which shows the worst of our society. They are the people who all of us that pay taxes, including the working poor support, is that ok?

I hope I never in my lifetime see a UK reduced to the populate having to declare their class, it would be be totally devisive.

So blue60 how many of the people you worked with, or under -because it's not basic level we are worried about -were from comprehensive schools?

Exactly- the upper class took over what was once considered a working class job-once they realised there ws a lot of money in it!!!

Or even a bloomin’ pop star these days trisher

As a retired BBC employee of over 27 years, I can assure you 'social class' was never a part of its recruitment policy.

Everyone rubbed along and just got on with their job of contributing ato a first class public service. That is all.

Annie gillybob sorry your post managed to get between hers and mine.

Of course that's the point gillybob and it is undoubtedly getting worse in all areas. Take acting we had working class people like Albert Finney and Michael Caine, now it's hard to find an actor from a poor background.

Who has “moved on to the ridiculous” trisher ?

I think the class system is alive and well throughout the UK except there are now a lot more of them . Working class is an aspiration for many . We now have lower working class and probably even two lower bands than that . Disgusting .

Isn't it funny how when a perfectly logical argument is made someone will move on to the ridiculous, possibly because they really have no answer to the argument but can only post silly suggestions.

I think the point that Alan Miburn was trying to make is that would people like John Humphrey’s have the same chances to “make it” today ? Alan Miburn suggested probably not !

Also discussed is why does a child need 5 levels to get a practical apprenticeship ? What about the non academic children ? What do they do ?

Let’s just brand people , not on the forehead but perhaps the arm

Wasn't it Tony Benn who said " if you are paid for the work you do, you are working class"

There has always been a perception of public school over repesentation at the BBC and it would be interesting to know how far this is true. After all why not know the background of those deciding what and who is seen on public media? It could in fact be getting increasingly worse. As opportunities for young people dry up and they become the first generation to be worse off than their parents those working for the BBC may well be introducing their offsping as unpaid interns and so blocking access for poorer children. I'd like to know more about that.
And yes we could do it for other organisations as well. Asking why that isn't being done already really isn't a valid argument for not doing it. Start with the Beeb and move on.

Unusual to read support for a Blairite ?

John Humphries worked his way to his present job. I am sure others did too .

Thank you for a rational post, Jaycee5

I didn’t have a vote for Corbyn’s son to work in Labour HQ

Elegran, silly me, puzzled now why I thought Australia. Thank you.

I think that is the least important part of what he said. He wants fair taxation, for the BBC to be funded in a different way and for it to be unbiased and in the latter respect the public will vote for Board Members rather than them being appointed by the government.
There is a problem with journalists generally all coming through the same narrow channel usually because of the use of unpaid interns which excludes those who have the least but also because people tend to appoint people like themselves without necessary being aware that they are doing it. They should train up school leavers and not only graduates as local newspapers used to do.

One person's perception of their social 'class' is different to the next. University educated doctors, teachers, lawyers etc are all surely 'middle class' but they could also claim to be 'working class' as they all have to work regulated hours for a living. Silly JC (but also dangerous).

Brief wander from the point - Just seen that Annie asked who was educated at Saughton. Lots of criminals, Annie, it is a jail in Edinburgh.

Sorry, as you were.

I think he means because a disproportionate amount of BBC employees come from a public school background .

I’m not shutting you down at all Annie and believe you me I know there are regions as poor as Tyneside but I can only speak with real experience of Tyneside . There are many regions in the whole of the U.K. that continue to be left behind and those wearing the blinkers are never going to help fix it are they? There has always been an. “I’m alright Jack” attitude .

I know Gilly, but when I tried to bring Wales into it you shut me down