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Moving Emmeline Pankhurst

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trisher Thu 23-Aug-18 16:56:26

Westminster Council are proposing to move the statue of EP from Parliament Square to a garden somewhere. Please sign the petition and stop this from happening .

JenniferEccles Thu 23-Aug-18 17:16:16

As EP ( along with her family) was involved in the more aggressive ,violent campaigning for the suffragette movement, I will not be signing this petition.

trisher Thu 23-Aug-18 17:41:55

Well as you use your vote in the future JenniferEccles you could reflect that those violent actions you condemn were. the direct result of men ignoring women's request for the vote for almost 50 years. That the first petition for women to have the vote was in 1867 and that the WSPU was not formed until 1905, no wonder some women had run out of patience. Without the suffragettes (who incidentally only broke windows at first) it might have taken another 50.

JenniferEccles Thu 23-Aug-18 17:57:50

I'm not saying it wasn't a good movement. It absolutely was but I do not agree with the violence used in their campaign. After all there were other women at that time striving for the vote for women who managed to do so peaceably. Do the ends justify the means? Not always.

trisher Thu 23-Aug-18 18:05:47

So how long do you think it would have taken to get the vote without the suffragettes JE?

JenniferEccles Thu 23-Aug-18 18:16:32

Like I said, I'm not against the whole movement, just those within it who indulged in violence.

Others were firm, equally determined and dedicated to the cause, but managed to not use violence.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 23-Aug-18 18:36:41


trisher Fri 24-Aug-18 10:50:32

JE how do you feel about the violence the women suffered? The suffragettes only ever damaged property, never injured people. They on the other hand were subjected, by the authorities, by doctors, by policemen and by anti-suffrage men to appaling levels of violence.

Anniebach Fri 24-Aug-18 11:38:35

Suppose no different to the disagreements between what is freedom fighting and what is terrorism

goldengirl Fri 24-Aug-18 11:49:58

How much will it cost to move, I wonder?

JenniferEccles Fri 24-Aug-18 12:44:49

Two wrongs don't make a right trisher

trisher Fri 24-Aug-18 21:00:23

So you condemn the women who only damaged property-no-one was ever injured by their actions, but refuse to condemn the treatment they received which left many of them with long-term health problems leading to early death. Interesting. By the way many of these women had mothers and even grandmothers who had been petitioning for the vote for years.

Bridgeit Fri 24-Aug-18 22:04:33