Frank Field

Right Trisher, what lies have a posted?

Democracy ? Throw out anyone who disagrees? Corbyn voted time and time again against the party line, he was never considered for de selection, that was democracy

It is "slagging off" Annie to make untrue statements purely because you dislike someone. I hated Tony Blair for the harm he did and the illegal war he led the country into. I would never say he had no principles, he had some but they were often overruled by self interest and personal advancement.

I repeat. I do not ‘slag off’ anyone , i criticise anyone who I believe to be a hypocrite , Corbyn is a hypocrite therefore I critcise the man.

I believe that there are a number of Labour MPs which includes such members as Frank Field and Margret Hodge that have never accepted that the Labour Party has changed drastically in its policies and Leadership by democratic means. That means was brought about by the grassroots of the party who for so many years in the Blair/Brown era were wholly ignored by that executive.

As stated, a number of Labour MPs have never accepted that democracy, preferring instead to retain a party that did nothing to prevent zero hours contracts, the gig economy, the housing crisis along with much else. Those MPs now try at every opportunity to destabilise the parliamentary party by any means possible including racism by way of extending the antisemitism argument to its very limits.

By example to the above, I would ask why Frank Field has brought his personal position to the fore a few days before parliament is due to reassemble when he has had all the recess period to bring forward the matter. We also have witnessed Margaret Hodge comparing her situation in the Labour Party to that of the Jews in 1930s Germany waiting for the Third Reich henchmen to take them away.

The above I find totally despicable especially in the case of Margaret Hodge who deserves to be expelled from the party regarding that statement alone. Others who cannot accept the democratic changes that have taken place in the party should also be expelled or resign whether they be at executive level or the very few holding the above views in the grassroots.

Well there you have it. Someone who in the past has declared they have "never slagged off Corbyn" doing it again.
Would I say Frank Field has no principles? Of course I wouldn't. Would I say he is mistaken to resign and wonder why he has chosen this moment? Yes I would. Would I wonder if his resignation was timed to keep the disagreements in the Labour Party in the news? Well I might. Things had gone quiet hadn't they.

Corbyn , has no principles

Iam 64

I totally agree with your post.

Frank Field has not ' just ' spoken out about the antisemitism issues associated with Labour !! There will be many who will say he has ' just ' mentioned it because he will give a reason to go before he was pushed.

Frank Field has been mentioned on threads regarding antisemitism and deslections in the Labour Party for over 2 years since Corbyn became Leader and I know that because I am one of the posters who has mentioned him.

Frank Field had the same ' deselection ' threats in the 1980's as Grummpa mentioned . That all came from the same scenario as we see being repeated to date in many Labour held constituencies and councils but then the threat was from the Trotskyite Militant Tendency now it is called Momentum.

Ringing any bells????

As for hypocrisy it is astounding how easy some slip into that category.

Corbyn is feted as being a ' Conviction Politician ' a ' Man of Principle ' but when other politicians do the exact same and it goes against Corbyn or their opinions they become ' A Traitor ' that must be deselected. Corbyn voting against his party is different to another MP voting against his party in the eyes of some WHY?

How many threads have we had on GN saying MP's should vote with their conscience? It's like any subject the answer is well as long as the subject suits ' my' criteria but not let's hold that as a true point of principle because on occasion I don't agree with them so I will revert to calling for their deselection. How shallow can people be!

I would not be surprised with a minimal amount searching GN threads there will be the some posters who will have had nothing but praise for Frank Field but now he is the devil incarnate .

I genuinely hope that if Frank Field is booted out of the Party and he stands as an Independent the Labour voters , not the Labour Party / Momentum activists or new/returned Labour members reelect Frank Field and he maintains a good majority. Will that happen? It depends how much bile can be spewed against him , how much his constituents will put the Labour Party over what they have deemed as a good MP for years but I hope they at least think about it .

Frank Field I have always respected you and you have proven to be the true ' Conviction Politician ' and ' Man of Principle '.

Annie wrote
"Momentum activists must be running themselves ragged"
They've stopped sending me emails - not that I had ever knowingly joined Momentum.
Since I rang to ask if my membership to the LP is still active. It has lapsed.
The person on the phone said she would send me a membership form. A letter came, but no form. So I've given up.

If there is a by election I hope and pray Frank will win the seat, he is a man of honour

I remember in Merthyr , the strongest labour seat in Wales, the Labour MP S O Davies was de selected because he had reached 80 years of age, he stood as Independant Labour and won, , this was 1970.

If there is to be a by election, on current statistics it seems more than possible that Frank Field will win the seat. what a mess it all is.
We need a strong opposition which ever party is in power. This lot need a strong opposition more than most. where is it?

Good post Iam.

Mary Creagh has tweeted support for Frank, he got £280 million off Phillip Green for BHS pensioners, how he has fought for the hungry and against child poverty .

Will Corbyn throw Frank out of the party and risk a by election.

Frank may now leave the party and there will by a by election , he is going to speak to his constituents.

Momentum activists must be running themselves ragged

Frank Field represents a constituency that voted to Leave the EU. His majority is something like 76%.

He had a long record of independent thinking, I may not always have agreed with him but I admire him and believe we need more, not less, MPs with his energy and commitment to public service.

He fought against Militant and is now fighting Momentum who are active in his constituency party. His concern about bullying and anti semitism within the LP has been reported on for a couple of years. I don't agree that he jumped before he was pushed, his record suggests he has resigned the whip for exactly the reasons he has given. As all leading LP people now talk about the need to tackle anti semitism within the party, why is Frank Field said to be jumping on an issue that doesn't exist.

I am not a Labour supporter but have always admired Frank Field as an honest politician committed to his constituents and principles. I think many Labour supporters will be influenced by his leaving a party he has served for so long.

Well, at least JC has thanked him. Frank Field said it was as though he had resigned from a whist club.

Reminiscent of the churlish behaviour of Trump towards McCain.

FF's resignation says much for JC and the current Labour Party. He is among other honourable people who are appalled by the activities of the present leadership.

We do not have a viable opposition in this country.

Grumpa, he spoke of the bullying by members who had joined in recent times , Labour councillors have been harrased , a councillor in his eighties was accused of attacking one, the police questioned him, the councillor died of a heart attack. Frank wants to stay a party member but going by Corbyn’s reply today it seems he will be out, I hope not. He is a good man.

He was fighting against the far left in Birkenhead when I had meetings with him. I really warmed to him.

Frank Field sees the Chief Whip tomorrow, he could be out of the party soon , not from choice.

There are several suitable leaders Fennel but Momentum and the unions want to keep Corbyn as leader.

I've always admired him.
Good for him that he has stood up for his principles.
If only we had another suitable leader for the LP .

winterwhite he will stand as Labour Independent, but Momentum are at work in his constituency

I wish Frank Field every success as an independent. His voice for the underdog was an influential and much-needed one, particularly the launching of the anti-poverty movement. Surely the voters of Birkenhead will remember and recognise this.

Not using her , i posted a link with the names of those who supported him for the leadership election, Jo Cox and Neil Coyle who also supported Corbyn gave that interview to the press

Sarah Champion , another supporter was pushed out of the shadow cabinet for speaking openly about the exploitation of girls by British Pakistani man.

Huw Irannca Davies , another supporter stood down as a Labour MP and stood for AM in the Welsh Government