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The Last Days of Mrs May?

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trisher Wed 12-Sept-18 11:42:36

So 50 MPs met to discuss getting rid of her, should we be counting the days? Or will she simply stay because there's no other suitable candidate and no one wants a poisoned chalice?

MaizieD Sun 23-Sept-18 17:37:01

I couldn’t possibly say ........

Cowardice?

Or because you can't possibly have any idea about other posters' life experience?

lemongrove Sun 23-Sept-18 17:36:59

Of course not trisher but some on here would find them so, from the comments on here.
I also wonder how many very left wing posters are from working class backgrounds themselves, they enjoy talking about the poor without any real understanding about their lives.I expect they will all claim to have been without shoes now though.

trisher Sun 23-Sept-18 17:30:05

Actually men who rented property could vote after 1867.
lemon Really! ALL working class people are racist and uneducated?

lemongrove Sun 23-Sept-18 17:27:01

I expect you know who you are though.

lemongrove Sun 23-Sept-18 17:26:17

I couldn’t possibly say ........

MaizieD Sun 23-Sept-18 17:24:49

I always laugh at the comments on here by very left wing posters who wouldn’t know a working class person if one fell on their head from a great height.

And who would that be, lemon? Do name names who do you think falls into that category?

lemongrove Sun 23-Sept-18 17:08:50

I always laugh at the comments on here by very left wing posters who wouldn’t know a working class person if one fell on their head from a great height.
They enjoy talking about them, but in reality would dislike them and dismiss them as ‘easily led’ ‘racist’ and uneducated. grin

DoraMarr Sun 23-Sept-18 16:51:12

Nigglynellie, do you really think that owning property years ago meant intelligence? That there were no intelligent people among the working classes? Property was handed down and married into by a moneyed elite, not earned by brainpower.

Anniebach Sun 23-Sept-18 16:37:58

Rather arrogant to suggest readers of the Daily Mail are brainwashed . Thinking of links we use to have from vox pox and Mid Wales Mike !

Marieeliz Sun 23-Sept-18 16:06:14

Yssgdrasil I suppose Labour will put all this right! Like they did last time. Some people have very short memories or choose to ignore why there was need for so called austerity

nigglynellie Sun 23-Sept-18 15:57:19

Particularly the easily led!!!

nigglynellie Sun 23-Sept-18 15:56:15

There's a thought nicenanny3!! I think owning property years ago did actually indicate an educational standard, poor uneducated people by and large didn't and therefore couldn't vote and air their prejudicial reprehensible views!! Perhaps we could/should ban these ghastly rags and only allow the reading of a 'quality' newspaper? Got to be an answer somewhere to educate the masses in the correct way!!!???

Nicenanny3 Sun 23-Sept-18 15:44:24

Nigglynellie ?
Or perhaps its the pompous Guardian readers who are so far up their own bums they can't see the wood for the trees.

MaizieD Sun 23-Sept-18 15:37:38

Maybe we should have an educational standard below which people aren't considered eligible to vote, rather like 100 or so years ago.

Eligibility to vote has never been by level of education. It was by the amount of property one held and what sex one was.

What we need is a required level of honesty in campaigning. Then at least the 'easily led' are led by the truth rather than lies and spurious appeals to emotions. It might also lead to politicians being more trusted by voters...

MaizieD Sun 23-Sept-18 15:27:00

I'm reading that the DM has changed its stance towards Brexit a bit under its new editor. When he edited the Mail on Sunday the paper was pro Remain. It'll be interesting to see if he modifies the views of the DM readers or just loses sales.

It could make for an interesting study in whether the DM directs, or follows, the views of its readership.

nigglynellie Sun 23-Sept-18 15:26:36

So what do you suggest varian? bearing in mind these uneducated, almost illiterate racist homophobic, apologies for human beings have the vote and are out there in their millions?! Maybe we should have an educational standard below which people aren't considered eligible to vote, rather like 100 or so years ago. Would this be the answer?

Grandad1943 Sun 23-Sept-18 15:25:54

Annie, Google news is a completely separate website from the Google Chrome web browser.

With the web browser you just type in the subject you or trade you wish to get information of and the various websites are are then laid out in the return.

With Google news it is a news site in itself. All the news items are laid out in brief with links to the media/news centres that the full story can be accessed. That can be such titles as The Times, The Guardian, The Independent or online news websites.

oldbatty Sun 23-Sept-18 14:49:36

Wow varian......well put.

varian Sun 23-Sept-18 14:38:17

The DM has high sales because it successfully feeds its readers with news about soaps, celebs, sex scandals, notorious crimes, pop stars, fashion, royalty, sport and any kind of sensational trivia and gives them plenty opportunity to gamble.

While they are lured in by this trash, the readers are brainwashed into thinking in the way the billionaire proprietor decrees - right wing, racist, nationalistic, anti- EU, lowest-common-denominator mindless knee jerk attitudes.

That is why we are in this mess.

Anniebach Sun 23-Sept-18 14:31:57

varian, I just googled brexit, the first newspaper was The Guardian,

Anniebach Sun 23-Sept-18 14:28:57

But GILL , I did say those who didn’t read newspapers. I do read Private Eye .

The Daily Mail has the highest sales, Mirror second

varian Sun 23-Sept-18 14:24:58

I remember the Express had an "anti-common-market" campaign in the 1960s and they have never let up their poisonous propaganda since then.

They now pay huge sums to Google so that if you google "brexit" the Express features at or near the top of the list., eg this riubbish-

www.express.co.uk/latest/brexit

Fennel Sun 23-Sept-18 14:02:55

We mostly get our news from various radio stations. And some internet sites. But we're well aware that it's impossible to get a comprehensive and balanced view of what's going on. No one source can possibly report everything that has been said or done, so all are selective. And show their bias in the selection.
I like Private Eye too, Gill. Must remember to get a copy from somewhere, our Tesco doesn't sell it.

GillT57 Sun 23-Sept-18 13:44:53

Oh forgot about The Sun, then again we were discussing newspapers, not comics

GillT57 Sun 23-Sept-18 13:44:07

Oh come on annie.......just look at the ownership of the big papers, The Times ( News Corp), The Telegraph (the notriously weird, tax dodging Barclay brothers), The Daily Mail (Rothermere family), Daily Express ( was 'dirty Desmond, purveyor of porn, now owned by Trinity Mirror Group who also own those other upstanding family publications The Star and Star on Sunday). The Guardian and The Mirror are minnows compared to these. When I do read a newspaper, I like the format, layout and attempted non-political stance of the I, but I get most of my best information from Private Eye.
I still stand by my comments that I will not take any political lectures from anyone who gets their indoctrination information from The Daily Express.