The Last Days of Mrs May?

And we all know what happens when these ruling rogues see a country going down the pan.
It's never been us who've raised our hand against any other country, therefore would we be prepared ? The answer to that is no.
We'll be nobody's friend after this lot. What an unholy mess.

There is absolutely nothing funny about making this country poorer in every way for the rest of our lives and probably our children's lives. Nothing funny at all about brexit. It is potentially a tragedy, not a comedy.

The only people laughing would be folk like Vladimir Putin and a handful of foreign billionaires who stand to make a fast buck out of "disaster capitalism"

Actually, it’s quite funny.

Silly mantras about the will of the people Varian that’s a bit rich, when all you do is argue for another referendum!

Brexit debate: Clash over whether BBC or ITV will host debate

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46386737

Why do they bother with this pointless debate? There is very little to chose between Corbyn and May on brexit. Both were ostensibly remainers but did virtually nothing for the Remain Campaign. Then after 27% of the population voted leave, they immediately started chanting silly mantras about the "will of the people" and "delivering what the people want", because they were afraid of the brexiteer bullies in their own parties.

They both seem terrified of allowing the people to look at the implications of brexit and vote. So what is the point of having this debate, assuming it happens as they can't even agree on when and where?

The ministers and deputies in Westminster had barely taken a look at the 585-page Brexit deal before the shock waves began to rock British Prime Minister Theresa May and her government in London.

For the most of them, it only took one look at the term "customs union" and the projectiles began to fly. Following an agonizing appearance in the House of Commons and a series of resignations, including that of Brexit Minister Dominic Raab, the prime minister — along with the whole edifice of British politics — was plunged into a state of chaos.

What a glorious Brexit...

Scornful laughter rang through Westminster when May declared that she had now negotiated a "smooth and orderly" Brexit. The deal is pure political poison. For friends of Europe, it brings too few advantages; for the Brexiteers, it is too close to the EU. The Scots feel ignored, the Northern Irish Democratic Unionist Party demands equal treatment, and the opposition Labour Party hopes, above all, to overthrow the Tory government with the help of Brexit.

"Theresa May's Brexit Deal Is "Dead", According To Her New Northern Ireland Minister"

www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/northern-ireland-minister-brexit-deal-dead

The men TM has appointed like David Davis and Boris Johnson proved to be useless and ran away, and her choice of replacements is no better-

Dominic Raab has come under fire for saying he "hadn't quite understood" how reliant UK trade in goods is on the Dover-Calais crossing.

The Brexit Secretary's remarks came at a technology conference as he discussed the "bespoke arrangement" the UK sought with the EU after it leaves the bloc.

Shadow Brexit minister Jenny Chapman suggested Mr Raab "doesn't even understand the very basics of Brexit".

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46142188

Exactly EV the damn men created this mess and then all ran away.

Who do we have in her place ?

stree not whilst there’s Cameron to compare her with she won’t

If it's to be a no deal, why wait till March 2019!!

It becomes clearer and clearer by the day, that NO Deal was the aim right from the start- and that the whole show about trying to get a deal was just a charade, a pretence.

There is NO middle deal possible- it is either a NO DEAL, or remain. Cake and Eat it will never ever be on the table- and quite rightly so. Unless we go for a Norway/Swiss style deal, which will entail free movement, payments to EU, and following all rules and regs, and not take part in decisions.

Yes let's hope its the Last Days of Mrs May, I can only hope so.

May has been out of her depth as Home Sec and hopelessly so as PM as is made obvious now, and it is time the 48 letters went in.
She will go down as the worst PM this country has ever had.

I wonder what would happen to Brexit if we went into a recession in the next few weeks ?

Senior Cabinet members have revealed they had longstanding concerns over Theresa May's Brexit strategy, with ministers warning her proposals are "worrying, concerning and disappointing."

Sajid Javid, the Home Secretary, Gavin Williamson, the Defence Secretary and Liam Fox, the Trade Secretary, all criticised Mrs May’s Chequers proposal when she set it out in July, it has emerged.

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/11/12/brexit-latest-senior-cabinet-members-brand-pms-plan-worrying/

I'm beginning to wonder (hope?) that all this is pandering to the public and readers of media to stretch out the tension. And sell papers etc.
Meanwhile there's some sort of deal already on the cards.
I'm probably hopelessly naive.

Theresa May is coming under increasing pressure to publish the government's legal advice on a possible Brexit deal.

The prime minister is facing calls to make public the guidance given to her by Attorney General Geoffrey Cox QC on potential post-Brexit arrangements for Northern Ireland.

As Mrs May works to achieve a breakthrough in negotiations with the EU - currently still deadlocked on the Irish border issue - a growing number of MPs are demanding to see the legal assessment of any agreement before parliament votes on it.

Sky News understands Environment Secretary Michael Gove, a leading Brexiteer, is among those wanting to view Mr Cox's advice in full before agreeing to a deal.

news.sky.com/story/theresa-may-facing-growing-calls-to-publish-legal-advice-on-brexit-deal-11547199

Surely a responsible PM would have obtained legal advice regarding the Irish Border issue, and published it so that its implications could be understood by everyone BEFORE triggering Article 50????

Thanks for that Mazie.

Has there been a survey carried out to specifically address this issue?

Er... yes, there has:

Nearly half of the British public still believe the false claim from the Brexit referendum that the UK sends £350m a week to the EU, despite persistent attempts to debunk the myth.

A new study by King’s College London of attitudes to Brexit found that 42 per cent of people who had heard of the claim still believe it is true, while just 36 per cent thought it was false and 22 per cent were unsure.

The research, conducted with the help of pollster Ipsos MORI, shows that sustained criticism of the false claim by the UK Statistics Authority and others has had little effect, with perceptions mostly unchanged since before the referendum.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/vote-leave-brexit-lies-eu-pay-money-remain-poll-boris-johnson-a8603646.html?amp&__twitter_impression=true

Oh I see, so it's your belief that all who campaigned for us to remain in the EU were totally honest and above reproach varian.

There would have been aspects of the leave campaign that influenced my decision, and I'm sure there were aspects of the remain campaign that influenced yours. I don't know why you feel the need to portray all who voted leave as gullible enough to only have been influenced by lies.

Who are all these people who still persist in believing the lie on the bus? Do you know them personally? Has there been a survey carried out to specifically address this issue?

The referendum wasn't won by lies it was won because more than 17 million voted to leave and IMO the only reason you want it to be declared null and void, is because you wanted to remain.

Banks spent at least £8million on his campaign and appears to have broken many rules. No-one is satisfied that the money did not come from foreign sources, who certainly do not have the best interests of the UK at heart.

You may not think that you were influenced by the lying leavers campaign but there is absolutely no doubt that many were. There are still people who persist in believing the lie on the bus despite it being comprehensively discredited. No-one spends such huge sums on advertising or manipulating social media unless it works.

Of course, if it is proved, the referendum should be declared null and void. It was fraudulent and won by lies.

When cheats won Olympic medals by taking drugs which were prohibited, their win was cancelled and other honest competitors were awarded the medals.

Banks supported Farage a secondary Brexit campaign. It's ridiculous and IMO rather desperate for anyone to suggest that Brexit be postponed, because an investigation is about to take place and no one knows what the outcome will be.

We should ask why it has taken more than two years to start this investigation.

It may now take so long that brexit could actually happen before the criminal conspiracy that facilitated it was proven in court.

MPs across the political spectrum have called for Brexit to be postponed following the latest allegations surrounding prominent Leave donor Arron Banks.

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/politicals-call-for-brexit-to-be-halted-following-arron-banks-revelations-1-5761349