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The Last Days of Mrs May?

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trisher Wed 12-Sept-18 11:42:36

So 50 MPs met to discuss getting rid of her, should we be counting the days? Or will she simply stay because there's no other suitable candidate and no one wants a poisoned chalice?

Smileless2012 Sat 03-Nov-18 17:31:10

Why don't we wait until the investigation has taken place and the findings are known before we start throwing around accusations.

varian Sat 03-Nov-18 16:37:51

The Daily Mail reported on Thursday that May declined a request by one of the security services to investigate Banks in 2016, repeating a claim made by Tom Watson, Labour’s deputy leader, at his party conference in September.
of Man firm at centre of claims against Arron Banks

At the time Watson asked: “Did [May] ask the security services to investigate? Or did she stop them doing so? There is a suggestion that in the run-up to the referendum the prime minister – in her capacity at the time as home secretary – declined at least one application from the security services to mount a full investigation into Mr Banks and others suspected of Russian influence. We need to know if that is true.”

The Electoral Commission concluded that Banks was not the true source of the £8m in funds provided to the Leave.EU referendum campaigns; that the funding involved a non-qualifying or impermissible company – Rock Holdings Ltd – based in the Isle of Man; and that Banks, Bilney and others concealed the true details of the financial transactions.

Banks has been invited to appear on the BBC’s The Andrew Marr Show this weekend, where he is expected to respond again to the allegations. He told the Times he had obtained a legal opinion, which he would refer to on air, to show that lending money via Rock Holdings was legitimate.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/02/theresa-may-arron-banks-leave-eu-campaign-investigation

It's not that often we get such similar reports in the Daily Mail and the Guardian. Is this a reflection of the views of the new DM editor? Tomorrow's Andrew Marr Show could be worth watching.

varian Fri 02-Nov-18 19:17:26

As Home Secretary, Theresa May stopped security services probing Arron Banks in run-up to Brexit referendum - as ex-Culture Secretary says PM 'has serious questions to answer'

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6344611/Theresa-stepped-stop-security-services-probing-Arron-Banks-run-Brexit-referendum.html

Only now, when time is running out, are his nefarious dealings being properly investigated. Why so late????

MaizieD Thu 04-Oct-18 10:07:37

I can't, either. and since reading this I've become steadily more depressed!

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1046828583484821504.html

grin

Bagatelle Thu 04-Oct-18 10:00:28

I can't see a good outcome either way. It's too late.

Diana54 Thu 04-Oct-18 06:45:30

It's pretty clear what has to happen to stop Brexit, TMs Brexit plan has got to be rejected by a relatively small number of Tories.
Now that she has reaffirmed that she is staying in power, there will be no leadership challenge, no GE, so it will be up to a majority in parliament to decide. Labour has stated that with no GE they would back a second vote and most likely that will happen.

Massive uncertainty, will a second vote change the decision?, we are really no further forward than 2 years ago.

varian Wed 03-Oct-18 22:36:14

A little ray of sunshine from TM's speech-

Brexit could still be stopped if warring Tories don’t stop fighting over the withdrawal plan, Theresa May has said for the first time.

“If we all go off in different directions, in pursuit of our own visions of the perfect Brexit, we risk ending up with no Brexit at all,” she told the party conference.

The warning came after the latest bout of Conservative infighting, which saw Boris Johnson pack out a fringe meeting as he again demanded the prime minister “chuck Chequers”.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-stopped-theresa-may-conservative-conference-boris-johnson-labour-second-referendum-peoples-a8566836.html

Please, Mrs May, can you spell out what has to happen for brexit to be stopped????

jura2 Tue 02-Oct-18 19:58:06

Have you ever read 'the Queen and I' by Sue Townsend Trisher ;)

Anniebach Tue 02-Oct-18 19:26:13

trisher, you seemed to have a very vivid imagination

oldbatty Tue 02-Oct-18 19:17:06

aw that's so cute....almost like a little club where the members all applaud each other.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 02-Oct-18 18:01:18

lemon ?????????

lemongrove Tue 02-Oct-18 17:45:28

No, just ruining our economy, privatising rail and all utilities, giving students a free uni education and going after business so that they just about give up.Everything State controlled.Borrowing to do all this and totally buggering up the economy.
Given the huge population here now, you cannot give all things to all men.He isn’t bright enough to lead, but McDonnell and Milne ( a Communist) are and this is what they will do.

trisher Tue 02-Oct-18 16:30:51

We live in Parliamentry democracy Annie all this scaremongering is pathetic, what do you imagine is going to happen? A revoluion with the royal family locked in the tower, all the aristos sent to the block and the red Army marching down the Mall? Too much imagination!

Anniebach Tue 02-Oct-18 16:17:51

trisher, you refuse to accept for some any policies put forward by Marxists cannot be trusted . And it’s not just policies it’s what else could/would they bring in ,

jura2 Tue 02-Oct-18 16:09:41

... on the other hand- fascists ones come to mind from t'other side ...

Again, what a Hobson's choice sad

trisher Tue 02-Oct-18 16:01:32

lemon once again accusations with no substance, would you like to post some Labour Party policies which you consider Marxist? No of course you wouldn't because there aren't any.

Bagatelle Tue 02-Oct-18 15:54:44

Bearing in mind that...
- only 37% of the electorate voted to leave, and
- that was on a sliding scale between those who absolutely definitely wanted us to leave and those who wavered right up until the last minute, and also that
- it was generally older people who wanted us to leave and younger ones who wanted us to remain (so that's changed the demographics a bit during the last two years)
... then whoever was Prime Minister of whichever political party was going to satisfy only a small percentage of The People.

Anniebach Tue 02-Oct-18 15:22:20

If Leadsom had not withdrawn from the Tory leadership contest the vote woul have gone to party members

lemongrove Tue 02-Oct-18 15:19:36

Well.....if it ever happens ( surely UK voters will have more sense) then I wish you much joy of it.

yggdrasil Tue 02-Oct-18 15:14:30

They (and I) understand we will get a social democratic government, as per J Maynard Keynes. Which is not Marxist except by the standards of the Mail and the Sun.

lemongrove Tue 02-Oct-18 15:10:54

.....and I do hope that they understood they would get a Marxist government if ever he got into power!

yggdrasil Tue 02-Oct-18 15:07:41

GrannyGravy: TM was elected democratically as our PM and during this difficult time, I feel it's about time her party, H of P and the country should get behind her.

TM was elected by the Parliamentary Conservative Party to replace David Cameron. That is a pretty small electorate to call democratic. JC on the other hand was elected by the whole Labour membership.

lemongrove Tue 02-Oct-18 14:52:23

Yes, they do, as do the people of Northern Ireland.

Anniebach Tue 02-Oct-18 12:12:17

The people of the Falklands want to remain British

oldbatty Tue 02-Oct-18 12:04:31

Those 2 ideas seem to make perfect sense.