The Hit List 2016

Is your lunch today Annie? If so I hope you enjoy it and come away feeling cheered!??
JRM personally doesn't approve of abortion, but has stated categorically that this personal view would never be inflicted on the public at large. I actually don't approve of abortion in a perfect world, but understand that up to three months it can be necessary for various reasons.

As always the level of debate astounds me!

Your most welcome Trisher

Thanks Annie that explains a lot.

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Annie I can see that youmight think JRM a gentleman and well mannered. What I don't undestand is how you can support any of the policies true blue Conservatives like him really believe in. Things like the scaling down of state intervention so that the weakest go to the wall. Things like women being refused abortion because of others religious beliefs. Things like zero hours contracts. Could you please explain that to me.

Iam, yes I posted it for that reason. I have posted about different periods of my membership of the Labour Party over the years i have been on GN,

Even saying JRM amuses me brings down the wrath of a few ,one is a quite recent poster so I put it all together and now have no need to respond to the false allegations.

When I am out and about again I will bore you all, there is to be a dinner held for me for my work for the Party ?

I've only just seen this thread, which on first reading seems like yet another ding dong about who is a proper socialist , who is a hypocrite and who can throw the most unpleasant comments at the OP.
It seems a pity you felt the need to re-list your LP supporting CV Annie but I can see why you did it, given accusations you're some kind of Conservative plant, only here in an attempt to discredit Jeremy Corbyn. I remember the discussions when you supported him, the move towards distrusting him, leading to your current absolute mistrust and dislike of the man. I suppose Grandad might not have lived through that process so you felt the need to summarise your personal and political history

True niggly, and this thread is about a list of Labour MP’s which I posted so come the purge members of this forum can check where on list MP’s were listed.

I haven't seen any sneers or jokes Eleothan except of course from Grandad, but then that's par for the course, and tbh we've all by now learnt to expect it!!

anniebach starts all these anti-Corbyn threads in order to be provocative (and there are not, as she suggests, a lot of anti-May threads - check for yourselves). The sneers, innuendo and insults are designed to get a response - and there are posters who love a heated or rude response so that they can express their faux outrage.

I'm going to leave them to sneer and joke between themselves until they run out of steam.

Tom Watson didn’t make the first list of those loyal to Corbyn .

.paddyann, rather more than shaking hands,

I've been having a quick look at the voting records of both Frank Field and Jeremy Corbyn, and in the main, they are pretty similar, so was unable to see which one was the "true socialist"

The differences that I most noticed were that Frank Field voted for the Iraq war and against an investigation into the Iraq war, and that Jeremy Corbyn voted against the Iraq war and for an investigation into the Iraq war.

Jeremy Corbyn voted consistently that EU nationals living in this country should have a right to remain, and Frank Field was not entirely consistent on this issue.

Jeremy Corbyn voted against the benefit cap and Frank Field did not vote against it.

This last one for me, is the one I think, shows who holds the true socialist values.

There is no evidence about where this came from, so in believing it originated in JCs office you are on just as dodgy ground as I am in blaming the Times
I think we're probably in agreement trisher


but why did LabourList publish it - what is their motive?
I confess to not knowing much about them

So are we going after everyone who was photographed with or shook hands with "terrorists" there wont be many politicians who haven't.Then theres the queen and her disfunctional family ,many of them in photoshoots with Gerry Adams etc .Sometimes the only way forward is to talk and that was proven with the GFA,would you prefer that NI was still being bombed and innocents killed by BOTH sides of the religious .nationalist divide ? Did the talking ,sharing platforms, extending a hand of friendship instead of a gun barrel not work?

Frank Fields parents were conservatives, he joined this party and HE LEFT over S.A. He was then only 18.

Director of Child Action For .poverty for ten years and The Low Pay Unit for 6 years.

Has been a Labour MP for 40 years

Corbyn was busy supporting terrorists , campaigning to bring militants back into the party and into weddings !

Compare Frank Field’s life to Corbyn’s , whilst Corbyn was cosying up to terrorists Frank Field was working for those in poverty. Anyone can check this.

Then if it’s not worth discussing tisher, it beggers the question, why are you discussing it? Some here believe it is worth discussing.

But why do you think he is a true socialist?

Which of his opinions demonstrates this?

I'm quite willing to be given something to think about, but not able to accept something as fact without any reasoning or explanation.

I do like people to actually know whatthey are debating lemon rather than the thing they imagine they are debating.
Frank Field socialist credentals have been questioned many times by many people. He admired Margaret Thatcher and started off a Conservative
^ In his youth, he was a member of the Conservative party, but he was thrown out for opposing South Africa's apartheid system. Shortly after becoming the MP for Birkenhead in 1979, he took on Militant and threatened to stand as an independent if they attempted to deselect him^
He might be termed a "turncoat"

How very badly you want this issue to be dropped trisher
Unsurprising I suppose, given your level of support to Corbyn.
Ilovecheese ......you cannot be serious! Frank Field is so very obviously a true socialist ( just not a Trot!)
I admire various politicians of all three political parties and he is one of them.

You can't sow doubt in the minds of people who chose to believe something no matter how tenuous the evidence. You don't sue someone if you simply want the matter forgotten which it was until Annie chose to resurrect it for her own purposes. There is no evidence about where this came from, so in believing it originated in JCs office you are on just as dodgy ground as I am in blaming the Times It's a unauthorised list of doubtful origin which no one has proved is genuine. So all the comments about it are flawed and it's simply not worth discussion, especially not with people who refuse to question its origins.

But , surely, on what is supposed to be a discussion forum, it is not enough to just state something such as 'Frank Field has true Labour values, without any explanation or indication of what those true Labour values are?
I find some of Frank Field's views on immigration or the deserving and undeserving poor to be not true Labour values at all.
Without any further explanation as to why his values are 'true Labour' that is just an assertion, not a debate.

Joan Ryan who faces deselection is on the right on the list.

Yet another