Labour Party Conference

Re banks closing, sections of the population are being abandoned.... older people, those who struggle with the nuts and bolts of life, mild learning difficulties, language issues. It's cruel.

Grandad I think you may have missed my post of09.37

GrannyGravy13, anniebach, regarding your above posts, if the teacher is an elected trade union rep for his school or broader profession then under legislation that person has to be allowed time off to attend meetings, training courses etc. Even the Tories have not revoked that allowance as many employers that recognise a trade union wished that to remain.

I am tutor on a stage one Unite Union workplace safety course this week and several of the attendees are here under that legislation with the support on their employers.

Anniebach, I am surprised that you were not aware of that legislation given your long association with the Labour Party.

"Teacher" who wasn't a teacher!!!!!

He has deleted his twitter account, his Linkedin bio has him down as an actor/singer!!!

I smell something fishy!!! Dare I say an actor paid to act as a teacher at LP Conference!,

Why was he not in school doing his job ?
Leave of absence on full pay during term time tells us all we need to know about the education system and the labour party.

I am finding the conference frightening, such hysteria.

Dawn Butler paid tribute to the Derek Hatton period !

I was disgusted by the teacher who proudly told conference that if him and other teachers done their job, there would be no more "tories".

Labour indoctrination!!!

What would happen to free and critical thinking in our schools and Universities?

Why was he not in school,doing the job he is paid for? Was he fined for taking time out in term time?

If the LP follow the deselection line proposed they will be even more unelectable, agree with JC or you're out.
I'm a labour voter but I'm not going to cross the road to vote for a gang of communists, so we're doomed to suffer the Tories but at least some of them will be sensible.
, not slaves to Marxism.

They have always been unelectable ( Corbyn, McDonnell )
But at least more people are recognising that now.
McDonnell is a proud Marxist, Corbyn likes to hide the fact that he is too.McCluskey is salivating for a return to the bad old days when unions ran the country.
I don’t think the LP will give the chance of a second vote on
Leaving the EU, just, if pushed will go for people deciding what deal.Since they are not in power though, they can’t actually offer anything.

Jane10 Polititians never learn the lessons of history they think they are smart and can do better, they're not, they're far too short term .

Old Meg The only way they will get more money for services is taxation that's difficult and unpopular but they really ought to tax multinationals properly. Nationalization of utilities is going to take a lot of investment, we are paying a lot extra to fund renewables and upgrading, this is not going to go away.

What do you think quantitative easing was, Jane?

Tax is a control for inflation.

That said, I'd be happy to hear a coherent explanation of how taking money out of an economy makes it grow.

We desperately do need to pump more money into our public services.

I'd be very wary of pumping lots more money into the economy based on economic algorithms. I just remember the hyperinflation in the old days of the lire and also the mark resulting in crazy amounts in the thousands for a loaf of bread. People's savings eroded in value, runs on the bank etc etc. There's something about remembering the lessons of history or being doomed to repeat them.
A far more canny line needs to be followed.

I can't decide whether I dislike Len McCluskey more than I dislike Corbyn. Listen to his rant was chilling. They are getting more unelectable by the hour ☹

Childish post Gill but what I expected.Yes, somebody should watch it.

Actually lemon the grown ups were discussing the Labour party conference and our opinions of today and the speakers. It was you who started the silly scare stories of the UK under a Labour government. I may be wrong, it may have been someone else, but I can't be bothered reading your posts again. Anyway I am now watching Newsnight reports on the Labour party conference.

Who said it was perfect? But some on here seem to believe that the majority are on Skid Row, when that is far from true.
Your last sentence doesn’t make sense as this government actually didn’t want Brexit and Cameron made a huge mistake by thinking the population didn’t either.
It’s a conceit of Remainers to think all who voted to Leave believed lies.
However, this thread is not about Brexit, but the Labour Conference, and it’s funny that nobody wants to talk about it.

Lemon. I have said time and time again that I do not vote Labour. I do not like or trust corbyn and his cronies. I will ignore your snide remarks about my perhaps knowing someone in prison. Your foolish belief that everything is well in this most perfect of places with this most compassionate and generous of governments does however explain why you cannot wait for Brexit and voted believing all the lies you were told.

Anyone at all want to talk about the Labour Conference? No?

MaizieD For every economist with one viewpoint you can find another with the opposite one.

They're actually pretty unanimous about the 'household' myth. And if you want to dispute what I they're saying I'd be happy to see pages of search results which say the opposite. Until then it's just your word against a whole lot of experts.

It’s a symptom of ‘the way we live now’ which is also why some stores are closing,

A huge section of the population unable to cope, because a bank has closed?
It has nothing to do with the government, and banks are not charities.It is an inconvenience ( banks closing ) nothing more.

banks closing mean a huge section of the population is unable to cope. Communities ruined by greed.

MaizieD For every economist with one viewpoint you can find another with the opposite one.
No, a country isn’t the same as a household, but that doesn't mean that public spending shouldn’t be curbed for a while.
If it was as easy as you imply then no country would ever be in financial difficulties after a worldwide crash.

I suppose I would be South Midlands and I can't say it's exactly booming but we have effectively full employment, if you wanted to employ an unskilled worker you would be paying £10 an hour plus, that is the going rate for cleaners, care workers and hospitality. There are a lot of migrants from a wide range of countries, if they went home it would cause real problems immediately because a lot of them are skilled. They cannot be replaced by locally recruited staff and that applies to welders and truck drivers as much as nurses and chefs.

This must sound like we're in clover but there is a downside, housing costs are very high. There is plenty of part time work so those on benefits in social housing, can easily manage, it is those that cannot work for whatever reason that have problems.

Yes, we're lucky we work hard and pay our taxes, any one is free to move here, please please do.