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Anniebach Fri 21-Sept-18 10:43:32

According to Labour List the three big issues set to dominate the conference this year.

1. Rule Changes. 2. Anti semitism. Brexit.

1. Comes under the democracy review proposals (plus open parlimentary selections ) another round which will be discussed and voted on by the NEC on Saturday.

2. Will likely crop up at fringe events !!!!

3. Mainly revolves around the idea of a second referendum
- termed ‘ a people’s vote’ by its advocates - and could change Labour .policy dramatically.

nigglynellie Fri 28-Sept-18 18:41:41

Perhaps it's because you're Welsh?!! If so, racist I'd say?? Impossible to see what else it could be!!? but you're certainly a bee in certain peoples bonnets!! No discussion with you, no pooling ideas, no trying to understand how you feel! Just political dogma and bully boy tactics! How diplomatic is that!!? Rather sad really!

Grandad1943 Fri 28-Sept-18 18:38:58

By the way, I will ask again, do you condemn the use of Gig Economy employment anniebach?

I greatly suspect that we will not get an answer from someone who " claims"twenty-five years (or is it fifty now) exemplary membership of the Labour Party?

trisher Fri 28-Sept-18 18:38:10

And even if they choose to live on the streets Annie shouldn't they be fed?

Grandad1943 Fri 28-Sept-18 18:31:17

Anniebach I am a poster who this week acted as tutor on a trade union course where those attending wished to see their places of work made safer.

That was all paid for by the Unite Union as they pay for the Labour party through the affiliation subscriptions of those members.

Those trade unions you anniebach as a closet Tory have continuously condemned. Now you even slur the greatest peacetime government this country has ever had that being the 1945 administration of Clement Atlee.

Yes, it was 73 years ago, but the benefits of that government are still surviving to the benefit of us all. So annibach, unless you do not use the NHS that service is still there for you

Of course, all the services brought forward by that great government have been greatly weakened by your conservative party and the Blair government years.

Anniebach Fri 28-Sept-18 18:31:16

Wonder away trisher if it helps you pass time

Anniebach Fri 28-Sept-18 18:30:21

Another dig at my faith, this time from OldMeg,

trisher Fri 28-Sept-18 18:29:56

No attack Anniesimply an assertion that I don't know how you can dismiss the homeless and the soup kitchens that feed them. I would have asked you about it but I know you don't like to be asked things. So all I can do is wonder.

Anniebach Fri 28-Sept-18 18:28:33

There are some homeless who refuse accomodation , this for diferent reasons, some because they want to stay on the streets because they have formed close friendships, some because they cannot give up drugs or alcohol. Some to earn more money begging than working

OldMeg Fri 28-Sept-18 18:28:22

Simply, very simply, cutting to the basics a true Labour supporter wants a more equal society. A true Labour supporter, even if they didn’t approve of the leadership or all the policies, would not defect to the right, but would stay and work within the party to steer it more onto the path they would prefer.

A Christian believes that ‘in my father’s house there are many rooms’. Likewise there is room for many (not the few) views within the Labour Party. Sometimes it swings more to the left, sometimes to the right, sometimes it settles in the middle.

You don’t abandon ship just because it lists to one side or another. It is a ‘broad ship’.

Anniebach Fri 28-Sept-18 18:24:55

Never long before my faith would be brought into it,

Wonder why I get the constant personal attacks from trisher and grandad1943 .

An alleged christian

An alleged Labour Party supporter

Despised by the Labour Party

I am not the only poster who criticises Corbyn yet I get the constant personal attacks, most strange !

trisher Fri 28-Sept-18 18:14:22

A soup kitchen is a soup kitchen Annie it feeds people who are desperate. And in 2018 that is the homeless, who may in fact be working but unable to afford accommodation. During the miner's strike it was the miners. Historically it was the deserving poor. Doesn't matter who it is, it is disgusting that we cannot feed, clothe or provide homes for any people today. And how anyone can dismiss these people as unworthy I don't know. Especially someone who alleges they are also a christian.

Anniebach Fri 28-Sept-18 18:08:42

Living in the past ? By a poster who posts constantly about the birth of the unions and the 1945 election.

Grandad1943 Fri 28-Sept-18 18:06:15

Yes, those Labour supporters will not even condemn the Gig Economy, although I have come to believe that many of them do not know the difference between that and zero hours employment contracts.

Again living in the past.

MaizieD Fri 28-Sept-18 17:59:28

Ugh. Labour (fat fingers)

MaizieD Fri 28-Sept-18 17:58:52

Yes, we do know that Anniebach is a true Labour supporter

And what exactly is 'true Lanbour supporter', lemon?

A number of us have been trying very hard to find out what this means, what these 'true Labour supporters' would like to see in the way of change in this country.

All we get is what they don't like.

Anniebach Fri 28-Sept-18 17:58:04

How pathetic, the far left, today we have had workers today compared with the Tolpuddle Martyrs and a soup kitchen for the homeless today compared with the soup kitchens in the National Strike.

Grandad1943 Fri 28-Sept-18 17:56:50

Well said Trisher, your post at 17:30 today points to exactly what is happening in this country and this forum.

There are on this forum members who would call themselves Labour supporters and even members of the party who are prepared to witness food banks and soup kitchens operating in this country in 2018 without any real condemnation.

All those people do is live in the past and are incapable of moving on.

trisher Fri 28-Sept-18 17:54:59

Ah Annie you are applying the old Victorian values of the deserving and undeserving poor. I see. So perhaps what you would prefer is that the homeless starve? Or maybe they should all be collected up and sent off to some sort of camp or something. But hang on didn't that actually happen? And wasn't it the unmentionables who actually did it? And Annie isn't one of them, she is a true Labour supporter.
(Although I didn't think she approved of going on strike, so why on earth the general strike was different I don't know)
As for supporting unions quite how is anybody's guess

lemongrove Fri 28-Sept-18 17:41:08

Yes, we do know that Anniebach is a true Labour supporter, am sure that others are too, they just won’t vote for Comrade Corbyn.
Just as others wouldn't vote for Blair if he was still around in politics, but they are still Labour supporters.
Your post was removed because it was insulting and untrue.

Anniebach Fri 28-Sept-18 17:40:47

I support unions, I do not support unions running governments, I do not support unions having the power they did in the late sixties and seventies , I do not support the power of unions to keep a Lord in his job,

Anniebach Fri 28-Sept-18 17:37:47

Soup kitchens in the general strike, children , fathers unable to work ,families starving , not homeless , people in mining villages for example, please do not compare feeding the homeless now with feeding families in the general strike

trisher Fri 28-Sept-18 17:30:50

Grandemash43 Thank you for reporting my post about Annie what it has confirmed to me is that the right wing posters on GN are quite happy to sling around abuse but don't like a few facts being pointed out to them. And when something vaguely near the truth is suggested they huddle together and cry to mamma to make it go away.
The rest of my post which you succeeded in removing referred quite reasonably to Annie's assertion that in 2018 there are no soup kitchens. There are. One operated by volunteers near me provides homeless people with a hot meal in the street. And that food banks are now in ascendance. A situation that in 2018 we should be thoroughly ashamed of. But never mind Annie thinks they don't exist and we all know Annie is a true Labour supporter.
I also commented about trade unions and how trade union power is people power and the highest growth in membership now is amongst women who are suffering the most from the economic measures this government has taken. But never mind Annie doesn't like trade unions and we all know Annie is a true Labour supporter!

Grandad1943 Fri 28-Sept-18 17:26:32

Anniebach, Quote [We had a debating group in school, foul language would have not been allowed and one side not allowed to go on and on and on.[ End Quote

Anniebach, I would have thought that mythology was also banned in that debating group.

And who has been using foul language on this forum?

nigglynellie Fri 28-Sept-18 16:33:08

I was 22 when my boy was born, 21 when I married my Sailor! In deepest Cornwall, (1964/5) we seemed a long way from anywhere particularly 'home' . We were then posted to Portland which WAS nearer to Oxford so family could visit more easily and vice versa. Absolutely loved our time there, still didn't think about politics!?

Anniebach Fri 28-Sept-18 16:24:34

Will not vote for McDonald or the ghastly Rebecca Long Baily either.