Nominee Brett Kavanaugh

Who says the American's don't do irony! There are some great pieces on facebook, you tube etc, Mat Damon has gone up in my estimation.

Fabulous, what a great laugh. ?

Fox News at its best (spoof not boof)

www.facebook.com/snl/videos/242136243315376/

Kavanaugh isn't fit for office. His comments, his emotional demeanour when reading the statement he wrote for the initial inquiry should rule him out.
As others have already said, if a woman had given her statement in such an over emotional, dramatic manner, dragging her ten year old daughter into the mix - she'd have labelled hysterical and unfit to hold such high office as a result of temperament, never mind the accusations being made.
Thank goodness our Judges aren't appointed because of any political offilliation. The US system stinks.
I'm not going to attempt to encourage those posters who just don't understand why girls/boys, women/men subjected to sexually indecent behaviour don't immediately call the Police. It would be a complete waste of time and effort.

Kavanaugh says Boof means passing wind. Nope, it doesn't. It's a way of describing sexual activity .

There is something fundamentally wrong with the American constitution which allows a small number of Supreme Court judges to have such enormous power for the rest of their lives.

all I have seen of this man is that he doesn't have the right temperament for such a top job, which is for life.
I think it will be that, rather than the accusation that he behaved badly at a party when he was 17 that will go against him, or should I say should go against him!

Looking forward to the analysis by Katy Kaye and Christian Fraser on BBC News tonight at 7.00pm. They are so good.

Why I don't trust Kavanaugh - he told lies when he said that he was 18 when he was drinking at the said party - the records show that he was 17 and in that state the legal age for drinking was 21; some of the slang he used (like "boofing") is apparently terms for some very unpleasant sexual behaviour towards women; he was attending a Jesuit private school at the time of the alleged incident (so much for religious education); a major Jesuit Catholic magazine ("America") has just withdrawn its support for his nomination (they previously strongly supported it - what do they know that we don't yet?); he has refused to take a polygraph (lie detector) test - Dr Ford has already done so. He comes across to me as a man born into money and a sense of entitlement to do whatever he wants - and now, for the first time, he's been challenged (hence the shouting and the tears and the anger when he was being questioned). Chilling indeed.

I so agree Babs.

I believe the Prof said that she put on her swimsuit in case they all went swimming, which they did not. It maybe saved her from rape.

Oh my! Kavanaugh performance was beyond nauseating particularly his recounting of his ten year old daughter's prayer for 'the woman'. His hysterical,self-pitying performance was an Oscar winner were it not so chilling.

It isn’t just one person though is it? So far another 2 or 3 are telling similar stories.

It’s only when others step forward, as I the Cosby case as an example, that the weight of evidence starts to build up.

I do not know which of them is telling the truth or not.

However I am permanently making the point that the ' Kangaroo Court' is a most divisive method of deciding.

The ' Kangaroo Court' decided to give backing to the ' Westminster Peadophile Ring' claim that should cause embarrassment to those who believed the now known 'lies' generated . Christopher Jeffries was hounded by the ' Kangaroo Court' and again there should be embarrassment on the part of those who made the poor mans life hell when there was absolutely no proof of guilt but he looked 'wrong'.

I know one thing and that is how easy it is to make assumptions on nothing more than flimsy evidence, in fact on no evidence in some cases and it is a terrifying thought how easy a reputation can be sullied without due process having been taken. Lives are ruined, families destroyed on the back of the ' Guilty until proven Innocent ' scenario which now holds more sway than ' Innocent until proven Guilty ' it would appear .

I am neither doubting nor believing either of them and will make a decision as to the truth only if the accusation and the defence can be proven but that is where the case falls down , thus far.

I dislike the politics of not only this episode but the politics behind ' Guilty until proven Innocent ' in general . I think it is worth remembering this could happen to any one of us and it is not necessarily related to politics as many have sadly found out to their cost.

When I was a child, I often wore my clothes over a damp swimsuit! We all did. We lived just minutes from the sea so it was easier to do that than wriggle about in the pebbly beach trying to get dressed with damp skin. No one caught pneumonia.

I am coming off this thread before GabriellaG implodes over "swimsuitgate".

Sparklefizz
That's the most ludicrous comment. When YOU, your kids or anyone else you know, goes swimming, do you or they put clothes on on top of a wet swimsuit? Behave. Normal people change out of and into their streetwear before and after swimming. Did she have a wet swim towel in her bag? Is no-one asking these questions.

Mamar2
Didn't want justice 36 years ago, nor in any of the intervening years?

But like other Gransnetters have said, why on earth would any woman want to put herself through this, she has so much to lose. And am I the only one to think that had Judge Kavanaugh been a woman, that tirade of his would have been described as ‘hysterical’, not bold and forthright?

I tend to agree but only in principle. The traditional process isn't supposed to let the President have the last word....congress must vote in order to confirm.

The problem is that Republicans have been controlling the process because they enjoy a (slim) majority in Congress.

After the Ford accusations, they no longer have enough votes to confirm K and time is running out. Three or four Republicans became undecided; and at least one of them (Senator Flake) demanded the FBI investigation in no uncertain terms. In a stunning development, DT himself has ordered the FBI to investigate K, but he's only given them a week.

My personal take is that behind the scenes, other Republicans had second thoughts too and wanted to know more, hence the push for an investigation. There are still some six weeks before the Nov. elections and before Democrats are likely to take the majority of seats in Congress.

So even though K was DT's pick and a sure thing, his confirmation may not happen after all. I for one will remain cautiously optimistic.

He did not refute the allegation; he denied it. I believe her not him, btw.

If the US didn't allow Presidents to appoint Supreme Court judges this may not have happened.

It's like politicising the judiciary - a very bad idea.

The FBI should have been given more than one week to re-investigate as well. What a farce.

Excellent post willa45

As far as credibility goes, Ford had no reason to lie with much to lose (she has even gotten death threats) ....he on the other hand, has many reasons to lie and much to gain. ....but credible or not, his overall behavior in yesterday's hearing should raise more important questions.

Kavanaugh was belligerent and unprofessional....his angry words and body language revealed a sense of entitlement much more than that of being maligned. Indeed quite a few of the GOP "male" club members didn't seem to care whether a the sexual assault happened or not, so long as 'their man' got confirmed.

Then there were the theatrics and the beer comments, but Kavanaugh's biggest low was to publicly accuse the Democrats of leading a 'conspiracy' against him and he named the Clintons! That statement was a clear indication that Kavanaugh allows biases to cloud his thinking. In other words, he doesn't have the objectivity, self control or 'Judicial Temperament' for one who presumes to make important Constitutional decisions as a Supreme Court Justice!

It should be noted also that two other women have accused him of inappropriate behavior, but there wasn't enough time to prepare their testimonies for yesterdays hearing.

....But this is not just about what happened 30 years ago. This hearing is about the measure of the man's character, his temperament and his personal integrity.

In the meantime, two other Yale classmates have come forward. They both say that Kavanaugh lied about his drinking problems.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Quite agree SueDonim.

Indeed, Sparklefizz. Such attitudes as Inishowen's is in fact enabling predatory males to get away with sexual assaults.