Northern Ireland and Brexit

That's the best one I have seen yet from any Brexitier. A hog roast with Welsh Lamb.

Love it.

How can you have a hog roast with lamb??
Aaaaah the intelligence of the rabid brexiter!

EllanVannin
rue the day
We will be having a party to end all parties. There will be a hog roast with Welsh spring lamb. All wine and beer will be British, needless to say everything will be British.
There will be a bonfire and fireworks where a friend wants to burn an effigy.

I wonder how many people rue the day they voted for Brexit ? Why oh why did they do it ? What was their real reason ?? Answers on a postage stamp !

There is "no way" the Democratic Unionist Party will back Theresa May's Brexit deal, a leading figure has said.

Sammy Wilson told the BBC he was "more alarmed" than ever about what the deal would mean for Northern Ireland.

The DUP, which props up Theresa May's government, has held talks with the PM in recent days as she tries to persuade MPs to back the deal later this month.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46757459

The DUP, who do not represent the majority of folk in Northen Ireland, have a totally illogical belief in a hard brexit, with its inevitable devastating consequenses for our hard won peace in NI.

that should be explain why....

Please explain Paddyann the DUP would be glad to see our troops back on the streets. I think that's very unfair.

Paddyann , is correct

You know that for a certain fact paddyann, and that the DUP would be pleased? Think you're being just a little bit presumptuous!!!

How will the good people of NI like having British troops back on their streets? I could make a guess that they wont be thrilled but hey I could be wrong...the DUP will likely be pleased!

"The European Union and the Irish Government both confirm they will not erect a border on the island of Ireland in the event of no deal.

It's a non-issue orchestrated by the Remain camp to frustrate Brexit."

The above is a statement put out by Nigel Dodds MP Belfast North.

I didn't vote because I just felt we weren't being given enough factual information for me to make a real decision. I for one would like another vote so I could have the chance now the real issues are coming out as opposed to the hog-wash we were fed before the referendum that should never have been held that way. A referendum held to shore up a failing PM (fail), made worse by a general election to shore up another failing PM (fail) which led to an unholy political alliance to shore up a failing party (fail) - where's that big duvet to climb under until someone with slightly more sense than personal ambition can be found (is there such a politician in this country?).

Yes I’ve got an Irish grandparent long dead, but I am hoping to get Irish passport along with thousands of others.

It's much more complex than that, annep. You can get one if you're Irish by descent, too. So loads of people with Irish grannies are applying for Irish passports so that they can retain freedom of movement in the EU. Including, I understand from mumsnet, some Leavers

www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/irish_citizenship_through_birth_or_descent.html

I met someone today, a guy in his late fifties who told me he had voted to leave but was now changing his mind. He said that in the referendum campaign no-one had mentioned Northern Ireland and he'd never thought about the problem of the Irish border, and yet he had been a soldier in the British army serving in NI during the troubles. If he'd not thought about it, I wonder how many other leave voters never thought about it.

www.dualcitizenship.com/countries/northern-ireland.html

Well it would be nice if you were right but I think N Ireland is covered by the GF agreement and it only applies to those born here not their offspring born elsewhere.

annep I don't think that is the case-friends of mine who were born in Ireland have 4 children, none born in Ireland, who can all get an Irish passport.

Alexa I am pretty sure you have to be born in N Ireland to be able to get an Irish passport.

Alexa I agree. I am British living in N Ireland. I've also had an Irish passport for some time.
Grandad, in the video the person interviewed was saying what a hassle it would be having to go to Britain and then to the EU. I just don't understand the problem. Or have I got that wrong? I shall listen again....

I do know the EU will need a hard border. BTW I do prefer to remain.

Annep, it will be good to have Irish dual nationality if and when the UK is laid low by Brexit. Although I was born in Scotland I can claim Irish nationality as my mother was born in northern Ireland, and then I can remain part of Europe.

annep quote[dont get the Dublin port problem. Just go straight to Europe, bypass Gt Britain]End Quote.

annep, Britain wishes to sign trade agreements with other countries following Brexit. Those countries may well have lower standards in animal welfare, industrial safety, food hygiene standards, workers rights or any number of other standards. The foregoing would give those countries producers a competitive advantage over EU producers of similar products, and therefore tariffs are placed on those products on entering the European Union to balance the competition.

However, if Britain signs trade agreements with countries that have the above lower standards, products from those countries may well be imported into the UK and then into the European Union by way of the North/South border in Ireland circumnavigating those tariffs

Hence the need for a hard border and checks between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic/European Union

And the new one wouldnt be an Irish border either. It would be a border between the UK and the EU.

We shouldn’t call it the “Irish” border, it’s the “British “ border created by the British back in the 1920s.

I don't get the Dublin port problem. Just go straight to Europe, bypass Gt Britain.