I'm sorry I can solve it and I hope someone can.
It was 'solved' by the GFA, as Patrick Kielty patiently explains in my OP.
Voting. I’m so glad we still have the ‘old fashioned’ system…
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An Irishman tries yet again to explain the huge Brexit problem with NI. In response to yet another airy dismissal by Boris Johnson:
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Patrick Kielty @patrickielty
And please.... please don't tell me it's "our money" or that the UK government would have done it anyway because I can't be bothered to take you by the hand, lead you to a corner and explain simple things in words of one syllable
1. Northern Ireland is made up of a majority of Unionists (as in the Conservative and Unionist Party) and, believe it or not, a rather large minority of Nationalists (as in Irish Nationalists)
2. These Irish Nationalists don’t see themselves as British but rather inconveniently as Irish (who knew?)
3. For over 30 years we killed each other because of these differences which means Northern Ireland is nothing like Camden or Westminster.
4. The Good Friday Agreement ended that violence by the following devious magic - Unionists were guaranteed that Northern Ireland would be part of the UK until the majority voted otherwise.
The Irish was border was removed and the island linked so Nationalists could pretend they were already living in a United Ireland (yes, Tony Blair did slight of hand much better than you)
5. Some of these Nationalists then accepted being part of the UK as their day to day lives were essentially Irish.
6. This cunning plan was sold to us on the basis that we were all part of the EU therefore fixation on nationality was so last World War.
7. Implementing the Good Friday Agreement was torturous (think Brexit with actual bombs, not metaphorical suicide vests) but we finally made peace. Yet 20 years later NI remains a divided society.
8. Thanks to your glorious Brexit vision Northern Ireland will become more divided as some form of economic border checks will become part of daily lives.
9. If those checks take place between NI and Ireland, the Nationalists who were once happy being part of the UK will change their mind.
10. If they take place in the Irish Sea some Unionists will be livid. However they'll still support being part of the UK (the clue is in the Unionist bit)
11. Your Brexit lies have opened a Pandora’s box for Northern Ireland. It's one reason why the majority of people in NI voted to remain in the EU (almost as if they knew more about the fragile equilibrium of their politics than you)
12. Barely mentioned before Brexit, a border poll is now inevitable thanks to your monumental ignorance.
13. When that poll is eventually held the Nationalists who were once content being part of a Northern Ireland within the UK and EU will vote to leave the UK to feel as Irish and European as they did before Brexit.
14. The poll will be much closer thanks to your Brexit folly and could easily be lost by Unionists, breaking up the UK.
15. Any break up of the Union will be your fault (a tad inconvenient as a member of the Conservative and er, Unionist party)
16. The EU is not responsible for your blundering lack of foresight. Like most people in Northern Ireland they were happy with the status quo.
17. By the time the penny drops that you can’t preserve the Union you want without the one you don’t, it will be too late.
18. You will be remembered not as the Churchillian visionary you delude yourself to be but the ignoramus who triggered the break up of the UK.
19. If there’s any justice all this will come to pass when you're Prime Minister so you can finally swim in the constitutional sewage you've created (though we all know you’ll be in Nice with your trotters up)
20. Meantime, if you’re so concerned about keeping Northern Ireland totally aligned with the rest of the UK where’s your support for our same sex marriage and women’s right to choose? Your silence is deafening.
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In a nutshell, so to speak 
I'm sorry I can solve it and I hope someone can.
It was 'solved' by the GFA, as Patrick Kielty patiently explains in my OP.
can't solve it
(I wish)!
But, even as a remainer, I still have no idea.
I'm sorry I can solve it and I hope someone can.
Again with every respect, but I believe that the above demonstrates that many leave supporters did not understand the very core detriments of the argument they were voting for.
Well, as a remainer I will not enter into that.
detriments? is it that pesky voice recognition again?
Yes, and No- the suffering for any family caught up in the Troubles was just that 'human suffering'. And so it would be if the Troubles, came back again.
Jalima1108, with every respect, but it was you I believe who stated that Northern Ireland was "an insoluble problem."
No, Grandad, I was answering varian:
varian Tue 16-Oct-18 19:34:22
Theresa May is incapable of solving the Northern Irish problem.
That is not her fault. It is an insoluble problem.
I may be getting forgetful but I can remember that.
Who cares what their politics are?
It was not meant unkindly, but whether someone quoted is Sinn Fean or DUP or anything in between is exrremely relevant in any discussion of NI/Eire or the Troubles.
Jalima1108, with every respect, but it was you I believe who stated that Northern Ireland was "an insoluble problem."
I then asked the question "So, why did the leave leaders and those that supported Brexit not inform the electorate of that fact at the time of the referendum?".
You have responded to that question with the answer "I don't know the answer to that either."
Again with every respect, but I believe that the above demonstrates that many leave supporters did not understand the very core detriments of the argument they were voting for.
Can you give a link to that article, MB?
They are human beings- quite simply, who have lived and suffered terribly during the Troubles, and don't want to go back to those times. Just like my relatives on the other side of the border.
Truly insensitive comments. A border is more than very likely to bring the violence back- can't you just see that and understand how ordinary humand beings feel about it.
Who cares what their politics are?
^From the Irish Times^:
The family express concern about how Brexit might bring a return of the Troubles along the Border
Brexit is the thing that could break it again,” says Seamus
The family despair at the possibility of customs posts reappearing along what is now an invisible frontier should the politicians in London and Brussels fail to find a solution to avoid a hard border in the Brexit negotiations. They are fearful about how the re-emergency of customs posts might bring a return of the kind of violent acts that might devastate families in future like it did theirs 46 years ago
I don’t see how it is not going to happen because there is nobody coming up with any better ideas,” says Mary
While I am not disputing comments in the Irish Times, May we know who Seamus and Mary are? Which family is being referred to?
Are they like Brenda from Bristol, are they local businesspeople or politicians, do they live in NI or the Republic,, what are their politics and why should we necessarily take any more notice of them than anybody else?
The John Humphreys interview this morning was priceless. For once he shut up - and let the Irish Government minister talk. Especially after being told "You sound as if you are talking for Boris Johnson. He's not even in the cabinet!". The Brexiters were carried along on a Farage-Hot-air-fuelled wave of nastiness and lies. Unless we stay in a Customs Union there is going to be chaos at the ports, a shortage of essential medicines, food rotting in transit and probably blood flowing in Ireland. UK will be contravening terms of international law if they interfere with that border.
So, why did the leave leaders and those that supported Brexit not inform the electorate of that fact at the time of the referendum?
I don't know the answer to that either.
It did it again!
Jalima1108 Quote [ It is an insoluble problem. So why do some keep asking Gransnetters to solve it?] End Quote^
I was quoting someone else (varian I think) who said It is an insoluble problem
My ^^^^^^ went a bit astray though, they should have been around the quotation so that it appeared in italics
People near the border are just terrified of a return to the 'Troubles' if a hard border returns. From the Irish Times:
The family express concern about how Brexit might bring a return of the Troubles along the Border.
“Brexit is the thing that could break it again,” says Seamus.
The family despair at the possibility of customs posts reappearing along what is now an invisible frontier should the politicians in London and Brussels fail to find a solution to avoid a hard border in the Brexit negotiations. They are fearful about how the re-emergency of customs posts might bring a return of the kind of violent acts that might devastate families in future like it did theirs 46 years ago.
“I don’t see how it is not going to happen because there is nobody coming up with any better ideas,” says Mary.
Judthepud2, here is the more recent BBC report and also one from the Guardian on the situation regarding the barriers in Northern Ireland.
www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-northern-ireland-43991851
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/sep/20/belfast-peace-wall-between-communities-felled-after-30-years
Again apologise for the old report and link I placed earlier Judthepud2
Again Apologies Judthepud2 the link above is an old report, but I did see a more recent report and I will try to find that link.
Seems I cannot get anything correct today. I was supposed to be in London but with no trains from the west country into or out of Paddington been waiting around distracted to see what the rearrangements for that trip are. 
Judthepud2, a recent BBC report advised that over 90 barriers still divide communities across Northern Ireland. Children in the main are still educated in segregated schools based around the Protestant and Catholic religions.
More barriers have been erected during the time of the peace processes than when the troubles were at their height. A fund has been set up to have attitudes changed and the barriers brought down, but that seems to be making very slow progress.
Below is a link to a BBC item on the situation:-
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-16603481
Jalima1108 Quote [ It is an insoluble problem.^ So why do some keep asking Gransnetters to solve it?] End Quote.
Yes, I believe it is (at this point in time) an unsolvable problem. So, why did the leave leaders and those that supported Brexit not inform the electorate of that fact at the time of the referendum?
Yet more deceit and lies in the leave campaign.
Crossed posts Grandad ! Sorry!
Grandad I think you might be replying to me, not NFK so I'll answer you. Yes DUP are the largest single party in NI by a tiny majority. However there are several other parties which if you add all the votes together (those who didn't vote for DUP) you will find that they are not by any means representative of the majority of the people of NI. NI voted to remain in EU which is why this fiasco is so frustrating.
Because of the Good Friday Agreement, most of the paramilitary organisations have handed over their weapons. This was done formally in accordance with the agreement. Gerry Adams made that comment many, many years ago. Sinn Fein are looking at this mess as the ideal scenario for uniting Ireland politically..
Yes, there is still an ideological divide . I think that will always be there but Brexit is stirring up old hatred and fears again.
The 'walls and barbed wire' ? There is little of that left now. One major 'peace wall' in Belfast remains, and has become quite a tourist attraction! Belfast is full of tourists. You should come and see before you need a passport to enter 
Apologies, my above post should have addressed to Judthepud2 not NFK.
Yes, found it!
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