Nasty Young Tories

Oh my goodness Annie,

'I didn’t know many conservatives wanted the NHS privatised, how do you have the knowledge to post this as fact Jura ?'

where have you been? Do you never listen to Mrs May or Mr Hunt, read the papers or reports (like the Nailor report) ?

I left school in 1960 with no qualifications and barely able to write. However, with more jobs around than there were people to fill them I eventually after trying many occupations found my forte in the road haulage industry.

In that industry, at that time it was very much how you performed that brought advancement, and very few were brought into management by way of outside academic achievement.

The above workplace environment brought me into industrial safety, higher management and then on to opening our own company in that field along with my wife.

The above most definitely could not be carried out today in the way i/we managed to achieve it. Management In industrial safety is only achieved by high educational achievement which I feel is not the way it should be, and is a very sad situation for what can be a very hands-on industry.

The above is the same situation in many industries it would seem, and that is why I feel that our generation very much "seen the best of it."

I didn’t know many conservatives wanted the NHS privatised, how do you have the knowledge to post this as fact Jura ?

How how you are?? How old you are!

Agree again Grandad this is getting worrying now. Don't know how how you are but my hey days were the late 1960s - 1970s and I can't imagine any young woman today having the freedom that we seemed to have back then. As you say, any mistakes we made might have made it to that weeks local rag but then be consigned to chip wrapping by weekend. Today's youth's mistakes are out there for perpetuity; just waiting for someone to dig it up. Sad isn't it?

I like that one Chewbacca us oldies agreeing for once; we must be going soft

However, I often wonder, how many of our generation would wish to be starting out again in today's environment? My feeling is that our generation seen "best of it" or at least for my wife and me that is how it turned out.

Was anyone there? What was the reaction of older Conservatives to those t-shirts?

Were the boys told to remove them as inappropriate? Or were they praised or given a wink and a nod of approval, a pat on the back - because many Conservatives are very keen to privatise the NHS, as we well know.

Gosh, I've got a fuzzy feeling in my head Grandad; that's 2 posts in one day that I agree 100% with you on! swoons to the floor in a dead faint

I agree Jalima1108, at times the situations people ( especially young people) find themselves in because of posts on social media I at times find very sad.

But as I have stated, "you cannot put an old head on young shoulders". Having said that, I would certainly not wish to be starting out in today's modern environment.

It is not only what posters place on social media in regard to what they carry out themselves that can cause trouble in their lives Chewbacca.

People posting disparaging remarks about their employers or other employees they work with frequently bring about disciplinary action against them by those employers under the label of "bringing the company into disrepute".

My own company was requested to advise in a disciplinary hearing some months back by an employer when employee boasted on social media how by transgressing the safety and security regimes they could finish their night shifts much earlier than scheduled.

That incident not only brought trouble to the person who posted those remarks but also to those who worked alongside him.

Grandad43
I agree


of course, my questionable acts are lost in the mists of time and not recorded for posterity (I hope).
What is on the internet will be there for ever.

In some ways, it's rather sad that some high jinks could prejudice a future employer's view and your job prospects, but this wasn't high jinks, it was just plain idiocy.
I hope they got taken to task.

You're not your.

My goodness Grandad, I think that's the first time that I've agreed 100% with you!
You've said exactly what I, and several others, have been trying to explain to jura for a few days now but we don't seem to have been able to get that message across. I did try again, in my post at 18.52, to demonstrate that all young people, no matter what their political persuasion is/was, often make questionable decisions that they may well come to regret later in life. For my efforts I was told I was a Trump supporter!

But your absolutely correct that prospective employers do look at the open Facebook pages of applicants and they judge accordingly. I have some experience of this being in practice.

Many of us carried out stupid acts in our youth that we can all look back on and cringe at the thought. The difference between when many of the members of this forum were in their youth and today is social media.

Many of today's youth post the above acts on social media as a show of bravado to their online friends and peers. What they do not realise is that they have created a record for anyone to access even when those who made the post has long forgotten the event.

Many employers search social media sites looking for open accounts of those applying for jobs with their companies and in that witness and record what they post. My own company carries out the above, and it is truly staggering what can be found in those open accounts.

Those young Tories and others may regret their unwise acts at some point in the future when they least expect it.

However, as we all know, you cannot put an old head on young shoulders.

idiot

Trump must indeed be delighted he has got yours ;)

They must be heartened to hear that they have your support

Fury at ‘Arm John McDonnell’ shirts worn at Labour events: PressReader

YOUNG Labour activists wore t-shirts sold online calling for the Shadow Chancellor to be armed with an AK-47 at a rally attended by Jeremy Corbyn.
The t-shirts, created by an independent artist, show a Labour Party logo and John McDonnell holding a Kalashnikov – the Soviet-era rifle popular that became synonymous with terrorism.

Twitter is not the official annual Party Conference ...

Now, North Korea, perhaps not, as for the rest, I do sympathise, actually.

Young people, of all political persuasions--with, and without the pre requisite plums-- have, throughout history, made stupid decisions that they surely will regret at some point in the future. Those who would like to believe that only Conservative party youth members are guilty of this are as foolish and naive as the youngsters.

A Labour youth officer has sparked outrage online after she expressed 'solidarity' with North Korea.
Sarah Cundy, 18, is chair of Canterbury Momentum - a grassroots group which backs leader Jeremy Corbyn - and said she would 'rather have solidarity with North Korea than the USA'.
The teenager was criticised after a picture of the North Korean flag appeared on her Twitter page which she has since removed.

wonder if she had a plum

As for doing daft things when young, at a party or an outing- oh yes, been there, done that, and got a few t-shirts on the way ..

but THOSE t-shirts took some planning, probably weeks, and they were not worn at a kids' knees up, but VERY deliberately at a Conservative Party Conference. If you can't see the difference, well yes, prejudice indeed.

But I'd agree plums are irrelevant, and their mention was not necessary. How plums can add to 'hatred' annie, is however beyond me ;)

Now back to the truth - was Femi telling the truth, or not. The answer is very simple and has indeed nothing to do with plums, British, or otherwise.

I thought we may get A Plum from our new tree this year but no luck.

Oh yes, I love British plums- miss our UK plum trees, a Czar and a Victoria- wonderful.

Femi asking some young Tories with plums in their mouth
It was just that I wondered how some young people end up with a plum stuck in their mouth whereas others who come from a privileged background do not.

Perhaps sticking a plum in one's mouth is a pre-requisite of joining the Tory party.

And what plums have to do with questions about immigration. DH is most particular to always buy British plums.