No Deal and supply of medicines

It suits today the weak and base,
Whose minds are fixed on pelf and place
To cringe before the rich man's frown,
And haul the sacred emblem down.

"And in this particular case, it was rather a cruel and unpleasant bit of scaremongering too."
I agree Chewbacca. I've been very worried about this for some time, in fact I mentioned it last year in another Brexit thread.
It certainly doesn't help when someone adds to the panic, getting all melodramatic, running around like a headless chicken.

but is "left wing" or "right wing" not an indication of how one votes oldbatty?

I didn't bring up the subject of how people vote.

many have made it very clear that they have voted 'remain' or 'leave' irrespective of party affiliation.

and you're not rude oldbatty?

I don't know jura, I don't know how she votes.
You don't know how anyone votes unless they say, do you?

Right wing clique..... Let's see.... Perhaps you would like to nominate yourselves.

I don't know jura, I don't know how she votes. I know your comment was rude.

oldbatty ...oh dear!
jura isn’t a Labour voter you know ( maybe you don’t!)
Everybody who has said they don’t agree with her outrageous comments have different politics and voted in different ways at the Referendum ( and have said so, on past threads.)

Very cruel Chewbacca

I'm not right wing oldbatty, far from it. But I do like to know when I'm being told a fact, and when I'm being told something that the OP "thinks" could happen. There's enough fake news flying around regarding world events without random grannies adding their own little bit of scaremongering as well. And in this particular case, it was rather a cruel and unpleasant bit of scaremongering too.

Has anyone on here, right, left, centre, upside down, Brexiteer, Remainer, abstainer, defended anything at all?

Careful now oldbatty. Some on here will accuse you of being a "leftie" or even a Corbynista.

Now who or what do you define as the “Right Wing Clique” *oldbatty”?

Let's face it, the right wing clique would rally round and defend just about anything.

Slippery little devils, facts.

As I thought then.

Chewbacca- nothing is a provable fact at the moment for Brexit - as no-one, not even the Government, seem to have a clue. What the links I have given, which you have so far refused to even look at ... show experts sharing grave concerns of what is possibly going to be consequences- should we end up with a 'no deal' or a bad deal.

Serious concerns are serious enough for many to be ...seriously concerned. That is not hysteria, or scare mongering -as many of you have called it- but the very possible reality in case of the above.

Ah, that too * Pamela*, hardly a shocking turn of phrase.

That apology would appear to be for repeaing what somebody else said, (the “mithering” remark on the Aldi thread?) not the sentence many of us took exception to.

Well I think, Maw, that Jura was referring to me when I told her she might as well chill.
I presume she thought that I meant the the Brexit issue was totally unimportant.
I don’t feel it’s unimportant at all, but we are brexiting. Fact.
There will be some problems. Fact.
As individuals we can do nothing. Fact.
We have to leave it to the negotiating team ( whatever we may feel about them) and trust that they have heard and understood the myriad problems that may crop up. Fact.
So why not chill? Not such a shocking concept.

MawBroon
It was 'sort of there' at 11.22.
I'd even go so far as to apologise, etc
Not what I'd call a genuine heartfelt apology.

As for answering the question Maw- that is the very issue. Brexiters never do, and often make it clear they have no intention whatsoever of doing so

And neither, on this occasion, have you. And, as you have done on another thread that involved Brexit, I will ask you the same question again:

Is the statement that you made, @ 17.11 yesterday, afraid their kid will not get their insulin, epipens or cancer therapy a provable fact? If it is, please could you post us one of your links, so that we can read the full fact document. If it was not a fact, and was actually only something that you fear may happen post Brexit, please could you confirm that so that those of us affected by this startling news can cope with it.

As for your apology, I'm sorry, I missed that.

That shocking language was used by others re very difficult and complicated issues - which was ... shocking, and yes, really upset me, to the point of re-using it to highlight how despicable and insensitive it is

No, it was your post of yesterday at 17.11 about mothers of children with cancer which was shocking language

I think I missed any apology.
Please do not divide the population of Gransnet into Remainers (hurrah) dyed in the wool Brexiteers ( boo)
You do not know how any of us voted and Infind your assumptions impertinent.