Is this JC’s “Donkey jacket gate”?

That shows great naivete then PECS because statesmen do have to look the part.
What would you think of a scruffy GP or solicitor, you would have serious doubts about how competent they were, and rightly so.

We cannot choose leaders on their dress sense! Policy and integrity are what matter.
As I have tried to indicate I am not a "blind" supporter of JC but am fed up with stupid focus on dancing, clothes etc to denigrate a person rather than debate their policies or the honesty or otherwise of their actions.

No-one appears to have a problem with the government selling arms that are killing people now but who stand and bow to remember war dead. To me that that is a political debate not the clothes someone wears.

PECS, what we think about him doesn't matter, what does matter is what the people he will be dealing with and negotiating with if he becomes PM think of him that matters and when they see his choice of outfit for this exceptionally large and significant occasion, they laugh at him, or worse still, snigger behind their hands. He is presenting himself to the big international beasts he will be dealing with then as a person, who can be completely ignored or eaten in one mouthful..

We can see already how Trump a much, much bigger man than Corbyn in every way, has made the USA a laughing stock since he became President. He's got away with it because the USA has a big army, with big guns and a lot of money.

Corbyn has the disadvantage that he isn't physically big, he dresses like a nonentity, and will have neither army, guns or money but everyone will be laughing at him, if they notice him at all.

His choice of informal dress was a certainty to hit the press, as did poor Michael’s coat which was not a donkey jacket .

Corbyn knew what he was doing, he used the laying of a wreath at the Cenotaph as a means to canvas for votes

I was in the crowds near the Cenotaph on Sunday, not close enough to see any wreath laying of course. The sun shone and it was relatively mild. The atmosphere reflected the significance of this Remembrance Sunday.
I'm not sure that those who say the men who served in that awful 1914-1918 war are right, when they say those men wouldn't have cared what JC wore. Things are more relaxed, less formal now than 100 years ago. However, my observation was that the majority of people in the crowds dressed more formally than they may have done for an ordinary day out in London at the weekend. Of course, there were a lot of former military personnel in the crowds, all looking extremely conventional and smart.
I suspected JC would be criticised and I'm surprised he didn't anticipate that and wear a more formal overcoat to ensure his appearance didn't dominate reports of his attendance at this special Remembrance Sunday.

Look at the men around him, they look great.

Exactly PECS an anorak! That was the problem...that and the blink and you miss the poppy he was wearing.
Is fuxxing a new trendy word btw?

Inappropriately dressed , why the overcoat in 2017 and the anorak in 2018

Just explain what is "shambolic" & " disrespectful" about the appearance?

If you do not like the man's policies fine, then argue that issue. He has voted consistently against war and aggression. He has been criticised for meeting with groups involved in conflict. His is wishy washy over Brexit. He has been consistent in his principles. He has missed opportunity to wipe the floor with the Government. I am not an uncritical supporter of JC.
But really..he wore a fuxxing anorak!

Carolina I answered this question at about 15.15m p4, about 7 messages up from the bottom of the page. However I do not think anybody else did.

I repeat the question - would it be acceptable for the royals to dress the same? If not, why not?

Yes, but the statement was, 'I am totally cloth-eared, what is your problem?' He is likely to be PM and playing with the big boys, like Trump, and other big players, in every sense. Do you think they will even notice he is there, let alone listen to anything he says.

He presents himself in the guise of the 7 stone weakling and wants to play with the worlds biggest bullies.

Chewy.... well put, shambolic and disrespectful indeed, but no more than I expected from him.
Is he a man who doesn’t care about his appearance or a man who likes to give the impression that he doesn’t care, I wonder.

Which we have ?

Well only if people react to it! Bridgeit

Well I suppose it was a guaranteed way get attention & make a statement.

He looked shambolic and unkempt and totally disrespectful for the seriousness of the occasion. And if if anyone considers my post or opinion "childish and pathetic "; I care not one jot.

I guess a lot of us have adhere to a sense of occasion, so back in the day any occasion deemed important would instigate a wish to wear our best outfit, to indicate the specialness of the said occasion.
I guess that’s how JC is being judged

Go for it Jalima ?post a pic for us to share, xx

Perhaps he'll find a helpful personal shopper if he becomes PM.

bridgeit It could say he does not place great importance on appearance, it could say he prefers to be comfortable rather than conform to others expectations, it could say he does not notice what people wear, it could say he was thinking more about the occasion than what people thought of him.... we will never know what the reason was and tbh it really is not v important.

Rather like Teresa May dancing, JC will be damned if he dresses up & damned if he dresses in his usual style. Those who want to make political points, without reference to policies, will reduce political debate to shallow personality /personal slanging matches.

On R4's Any Questions programme on Friday I heard Bastani called the 'Katy Hopkins of the left and a shock jock, who specialises in espousing outrageous ideas'. He was one of the panel and did not question this description. He can be ignored.

Whether he likes it or not Corbyn is now an international figure, he could be our next Prime Minister. He is under scrutiny across the world. Just as he needs and has media advisors and PR support, and he does, however much they hide their jobs behind other job descriptions, he needs to think what impression he gives on great occasions.

Now, I fully understand that all of us on GN are far above such frivolities as judging people by what they wear. Unfortunately, when we descend from our ivory tower, we will find that there are an awful lot of people in the world who aren't on GN and do judge by appearances and if Corbyn expects to cut the mustard as the British PM he has got to walk the walk and talk the talk and look the look.

I am not as outraged as many by what he wore, but really, if in a couple of years time he is going to be on stage with Trump, Macron and whoever is leading Germany then, if he doesn't want to be mistaken for one of the cleaners and trodden into the ground by Trump who didn't see him, he really needs to sharpen up.

He is going for more young votes

Given that we allegedly choose /wear clothes that reflect our personality/ personas,
That's it! I am going to throw out all my rather safe, boring clothes.

I want to be daring, adventurous, perhaps a bit hippy again …..

He's trying to show that he's anti-establishment and detach himself from those around him.