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Is this JC’s “Donkey jacket gate”?

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MawBroon Mon 12-Nov-18 11:11:26

inews.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyns-coat-armistice-day-service-cenotaph/

Harrumph!
I know appearance is not everything, but could Jeremy Corbyn not have found a more appropriate coat and tie?
Looks like a bit of a passive aggressive statement to me.

merlotgran Mon 12-Nov-18 13:45:18

The weather was atrocious?

I must have been watching the wrong wreath laying ceremony.

Better go to Specsavers.

trisher Mon 12-Nov-18 13:44:24

All this proves is that there is nothing else to criticise the Labour Party for just now. It rained earlier, he wore a raincoat with a hood, some might consider that sensible. I didn't go to a service at a Cenotaph I read Siegfried Sassoon's " On passing the New Menin Gate". I don't suppose the soldiers who died in the mud would be concerned what someone wore. The last two lines sum it up
"Well might the Dead who struggled in the slime
Rise and deride this sepulchre of crime."

jura2 Mon 12-Nov-18 13:40:51

Exactly. Respect is not about clothes- respect would be to stop selling arms to dictators who continue to kill their people, and stopping going to war to cause the same. Posh clothes, pomp and ceremony - clutching the arms contracts behind their back ...

As Lucky says, the weather was atrocious, and it was perhaps not the best choice - but totally acceptable. As for the News, the whole News and nothing but was about Rememberance- and I could not help thinking it was VERY deliberate to avoid other subjects. And I am NO fan of Corbyn.

Anniebach Mon 12-Nov-18 13:38:43

Is Trump the only politician to put forward as a comparison?

oldbatty Mon 12-Nov-18 13:30:40

Melania Trump looks immaculate but she's dead behind the eyes. Her husband looks smart but he is a vile misogynist.

Anniebach Mon 12-Nov-18 13:28:07

Note he didn’t arrive on his bicycle ?

Nicenanny3 Mon 12-Nov-18 13:26:31

Good grief he's gone completely the other way ?

Anniebach Mon 12-Nov-18 13:20:24

www.google.co.uk/search?q=corbyn+in+fur+coat&rlz=1C9BKJA_enGB703GB703&oq=corbyn+in+fur+&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l2.11252j0j7&hl=en-GB&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=zW7scbJG6xd5TM:

He can certaintly dress up when he chooses to !

Nicenanny3 Mon 12-Nov-18 13:15:06

I thought Corbyn looked scruffy and showed disrespect not what you would expect from a would be prime minister. He'd look good on the world stage scruffy Corbyn fancy having him represent Britain we'd be a laughing stock.

oldbatty Mon 12-Nov-18 13:12:49

my question was in response to another poster who mentioned he could look smart on occasions.

For whats its worth, having had a quick glance at images of the cenotaph ceremony, I think the man looks ill.

Anniebach Mon 12-Nov-18 13:09:19

batty, I don’t recall Hamas or Adams being present at the cenotaph laying a wreath of poppies to honour the dead

Luckygirl Mon 12-Nov-18 13:05:52

The media are clearly struggling for news - though I would have thought there was plenty around.

Anniebach Mon 12-Nov-18 13:05:09

Michael did not wear a donkey jacket, his wife showed it to me, it was a three quarter wool coat , Jill chose it because of his health

Luckygirl Mon 12-Nov-18 13:04:53

I can't see the problem. It was cold and wet - he wore a suitable garment.

oldbatty Mon 12-Nov-18 13:03:47

Are there any images of Corbyn looking smart with Hamas and Gerry Adams please?

Jalima1108 Mon 12-Nov-18 12:58:28

I didn't think the anorak was too bad, but the comment about him looking like a geography teacher is unfair to geography teachers; they have far better educational qualifications but nothing like the salary.
grin

At least he managed to find his way there, so he does have something in common with geography teachers.

MawBroon Mon 12-Nov-18 12:57:28

Calm voice of reason Eazybee - as with others.
Thank goodness some of us can express an opinion without getting apoplectic or swearing all over the place!

eazybee Mon 12-Nov-18 12:54:30

I think Jeremy Corbyn genuinely doesn't care about clothes, and he does look slightly more respectable now than when he first appeared, probably down to his aides.

I didn't think the anorak was too bad, but the comment about him looking like a geography teacher is unfair to geography teachers; they have far better educational qualifications but nothing like the salary.

What I do find offensive is MaryEliza's use of swear words, again, to underline her (inaccurate ) point of view. I took the 'donkey jacket moment' to refer to Michael Foot , and that was how it was described on the Today programme.

ninathenana Mon 12-Nov-18 12:52:44

Maw I see no lies. Perhaps the thread title was misunderstood confused

DD commented on the red tie. We like others thought he looked scruffy to

Teetime Mon 12-Nov-18 12:51:55

Just to add my fourpennnorth I yelled 'what the hell does he look like?' when JC hoved into view at the Senotaph - shabby I thought and a very deliberate cynical ploy on his part.

And BYTW - what the hell is all this nasty stuff on here- cant there be a debate among adults without resorting to this?

oldgimmer1 Mon 12-Nov-18 12:44:03

It did put me in mind of Michael Foot and THAT jacket - as I recall it wasn't even a donkey jacket per se.

The media had a field day though and as I recall it was pretty much the end of Foot, alas.

Corbyn should be politically savvy enough by now to know that if he is seen to be inappropriately dressed at a serious event he will be pulled to pieces.

Bad form, Jezza.

Anniebach Mon 12-Nov-18 12:41:48

Nothing to do with his beard, all to do with dressing appropriately for the occasion, if ex servicemen young and old can do so then so can this aged politician who thinks he is in the sixties .

Riverwalk Mon 12-Nov-18 12:36:37

He's the leader of HM Opposition why should he stay away? Admittedly he doesn't scrub-up well - it's that scruffy beard!

David Cameron, Nick Clegg, Tony Blair, etc., and all our other smooth and shiny politicians, are they more statesman-like because of smart overcoats and big poppies?

Anniebach Mon 12-Nov-18 12:26:56

All the people who paid their respects wearing an overcoat and a normal size poppy were hypocrites ? Awful lot of hypocrites there then

grannyticktock Mon 12-Nov-18 12:22:58

It's not a fashion parade or a display of individual beliefs. A dark coloured coat seems fine to me, although it would have looked smarter if he had either removed the hood or had someone to straighten and flatten it for him. A red tie matches the red poppies, and many people, including Royals, were wearing tiny poppy pins this year.
Corbyn can't do right for doing wrong. If he had appeared in a formal, Trump-style overcoat with a big fat poppy, people would have said he was being hypocritical.