I have no prediction but I will say, 'Bring on Planet of the Apes' I'm sure that they would do a far better job than any of the alternatives we have in this country!
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I predict.....
(466 Posts)Theresa May will lose the vote on Tuesday.
Do you agree?
And then what will happen next........let’s see whose prediction is the closest. Perhaps let this thread run about 2 weeks and see who got it right, or nearly right.
Declare a winner just before Christmas.
Over to you ?
All those who have pledged their support of TM will stab her in the back and jockey for position to be her replacement.
We will all die of boredom.
Nigglynelly I agree with every word you said !!
^ and an absolute refusal to leave until the deal WE want is negotiated.^
Can you clarify this please, eazybee. Are you talking about some sort of 'lock in' where no-one leaves the room until everything is sorted?
Or are you suggesting that we don't leave the EU until we have a deal.
And, just as a matter of interest, what would 'we want' from a deal?
I wouldn't predict, but I think Theresa may will pull the vote, because she is absolutely determined not to go.
She is hell-bent, not her own destruction, but on everybody else's because she is incapable of accepting that she is a disaster as a Prime Minister.
What I would like to see happen would be that she, Oliver Robbins and Philip Hammond (responsible for circulating all the disaster theories), superseded by a team of negotiators: Boris Johnson, David Davis and Dominic Raab, and a great deal of table thumping and slapping of papers, and an absolute refusal to leave until the deal WE want is negotiated.
But I can predict that won't happen.
Where has George Soros put his money?
WTO specifies wto members must offer each other most favoured nation deals
But that would not be on the basis of the present 'deal'. Once we leave the trading bloc of the EU the deals we get as part of the EU trading bloc will will fall. Also all deals made with other countries by the EU will fall because they were made by the EU, not by us as an individual WTO member.
All we'll get is WTO tariffs. MFN rules only apply when countries are trading on WTO rules. EU can't give us worse treatment than any other third country they don't have trade deals with, but we won't get the deal we have now. No-one trades WTO if they can help it.
Anyway, let's hope that it's never put to the test..
let’s see whose prediction is the closest.
About as close as the referendum result (only in reverse iyswim).
The arguments will continue however.
I predict that the vote will be won - just.
MaizieD
we leave with no deal at all
This from FullFacts.
The uk and the eu would still have a deal. An automatic deal under the all embracing WTO rules.
How? because the uk and the eu are both members in their own right and the WTO specifies wto members must offer each other most favoured nation deals
I also predict right-wing rioting during the next few weeks.
On the same scale as the pro-Brexit demos we've seen in the past year? 
I predict that the vote will be lost and that parliament following the Grieve am3ndment will appoint some kind of cross-party body to carry on negotiating, that the 29 March deadline will be extended and things will drag on and on and at last the whole thing will slowly collapse.
I also predict right-wing rioting during the next few weeks.
And I predict that TM will remain a sort of puppet prime minister
Have you actually read the referedum bill, nellie. There wasn't anything in it that was particularly contentious and Parliament believed David Liddington (and the House of Commons briefing paper) when he told them that the referendum was advisory when Salmond tried to get an amendment stipulating a super majority.
As far as I am aware there is no mechanism by which Parliament could have prevented Cameron making foolish promises off his own bat or various tory MPs repeating them.
What MPs do or say outside parliamentary sessions may have little or no connection with the 'will of Parliament'. The will of Parliament is contained in wording of the legislation they pass.
I realise that this will not stop people making this stupid claim about 'Parliament' promising 'once in a lifetime' but trying to expose the myth makes me feel better...
I would agree that the whole exercise was sloppy and ill thought out.
Well Parliament certainly agreed to the terms of the referendum without a murmur and made no protest at D,C,s utterances. Parliament was certain remain would win and, like DC didn't see any reason to to be other than cavalier.
Parliament agreed, once in a lifetime,
Parliament did not agree. Just find me the bit in Hansard when the Referendum Bill was being debated and Parliament agreed that it was a once in a lifetime vote? There was nothing in the referendum bill that said this (I have read it), nor was there anything in the Act which parliament voted for.
David Cameron said it and he had absolutely no right, or power, to make this promise. The only body which could make it was Parliament and they DIDN'T do it.
I agree with Niggly; and as for a prediction, same as Jane10.
But really Guido Fawkes had the right idea...
we will leave on WTO terms next year ZIPPEE
There is no such thing as 'WTO terms'. If we don't get May's deal, or Remain we leave with no deals at all. Every single thing connected with the EU lapses (which includes trade deals, recognition of qualifications, manufacturing standards, co-operation in security operations and pursuit of criminals, etc etc. etc) It means utter chaos:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46480374
This is just one 'opinion'. For a really comprehensive view of the effects of 'no deal' I'd suggest that you visit Dr Richard North's blog where he went through all the implications months ago. and maybe have a look at the impact papers which the EU produced for the remaining 27 EU states last spring.
You have to be utterly crazy and irresponsible to advocate leaving with no deal. And whoever keeps feeding the gullible this rubbish about 'trading under WTO rules' is either terminally stupid or a self serving cynic who stands to make a lot of money from the ensuing chaos.
*NO COUNTRY IN THE WORLD TRADES BY 'WTO RULES' ALONE. I wonder why not?
Trading under WTO is so dreadful that countries make trade deals with other countries (which exempt them from the 'rules') and form trading blocs. They run as far and as fast as they can from WTO.
Luckygirl chaos is too vague....be more explicit
niggly can we have a prediction please.
oldbatty keep it clean
This thread isn’t about what is right or wrong.....it’s what YOU think will happen please.
Chewbaca. I know he isn't, that's why I said he should be !
Argh no! Not another referendum. They are recipes for division, dissent and aggression. The last Scottish one was and so was the Brexit one.
nigglie, I think i may love you.
Cameron is a complete coward and a fool, BUT Parliament allowed the referendum to be held as it was, Parliament agreed, once in a lifetime, brexit means brexit with or without an agreement, and now Parliament is running scared and trying desperately to backtrack on the very things it agreed!!!
Come back Guy Fawkes, all is forgiven!!!
Do you remember politics pre-brexit?
I do, but don't remember the posters who are now so anti, being so critical of Cameron & co back then. Maybe the current chaos has revealed what some of us always believed.
I think TM will lose the vote and be forced to resign.
Sleaze Gove will take over and will achieve no renegotiation but will do his utmost to convince us the he has achieved a good deal and maybe a few gullible souls will believe the rubbish yet again!
There will be a second referendum followed I hope by another , on Scottish independence, which will be gain a Yes majority because the scales will have fallen from the eyes of those who previously couldn't/wouldn't see the rottenness at the heart of the Tory party and ergo of Westminster.
It is such a mess. Cameron threw a referendum at the people to appease his nay-sayers, and was so arrogant that he never dreamt that the result might go as it did.
The referendum was set up in a lackadaisical fashion that would have been crass in a sixth form debating society - no stipulated turnout, no stipulated margin......beyond belief!
Cameron, with his (relatively) stable majority promised that whatever the result he would see the process through then b******d off over the horizon to live off his fat, leaving chaos in his wake.
Then May (more arrogance) threw in another GE that did not go as she hoped so we ended up with a minority government in hock to a bunch of narrow-minded bigots who were bribed to support her - they have got their money and now they can vote as they please. A government as weak as hers is not in a position to negotiate with this vast organisation of the EU.
Dissatisfaction with the EU is not just the preserve of Britain. The rise of right-wing parties across Europe is I believe closely related to the monolith that is the EU not listening to grass-roots concerns. Brexit (and Trump for that matter) is the voice of people who have been trodden on for decades while the fat cats thrive. A recipe for chaos, and for a vote that reflects the chance that people grasped to give the government a bloody nose - leaving the EU was not the only thing that many people were trying to say.
Huge organisations are not responsive to local needs, and have a tendency to get carried away and stop listening. The principles of the EU were good at the start, but it has run out of control and that is why we have this vote that is plunging us all into chaos.
Cameron has so much to answer for.
My prediction? - chaos, simply chaos.
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