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over 75s TV licence

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Pretzel Mon 14-Jan-19 15:11:11

Has anyone been following the news about the over 75s free TV licence scheme?

apparently it could be scrapped some point soon. and that doing this could push 50,000 people into poverty.

do you think could that really happen?

Nonnie Tue 15-Jan-19 16:38:46

Marilii we have to pay for a licence to watch TV and then we don't pay anything for any of the basic TV channels. If you want more channels you have to pay for them. If you want to watch programmes on catch up you need to have an Internet connection which not all older people have.

Several people on here don't seem to understand that the BBC has a charter which commits them to certain types of programmes which the commercial stations don't have because they don't raise enough revenue. If the BBC were to become self funding it would require a legal change to its charter and no longer provide some of those services. I haven't checked which are those commitments but I think it would include things like the Asian Network and perhaps the BBC World service.

Marilii Tue 15-Jan-19 16:27:20

I live in the USA and am confused about this posting. What do you all mean when you talk about a license for a TV? Do you need a license to watch television programs in your own home or are you talking about a license being necessary so that you can purchase a TV? Either way, I've never heard of such a thing.

newnanny Tue 15-Jan-19 16:08:50

Like many I rarely watch the BBC. I find it too biased. I watch mostly Sky Sport or Netflix. I actually believe the BBC should support itself with advertising as other channels do. I think BBC presenters are overpaid. I would not even pay them half of what they get. Also far to many repeats. I do think after a lifetime of paying a license fee people over 75 are entitled to not have to pay for BBC especially as many do not watch it. I don't think whether a person can afford it comes into it if they have paid a TV license for all of their adult lives.

Sheilasue Tue 15-Jan-19 15:33:03

Well we have just cancelled sky, because we won’t be able to afford it.

Neilspurgeon0 Tue 15-Jan-19 14:38:28

I don’t get it yet either but I do wish they would consider means testing for it; if you need it and can’t afford it, have it free; if you can afford to pay say half, do so; if you are reasonably well off (one of the affluent pensioners wink the BBC keep banging on about) buy your own. It really isn’t a vast amount of money but for some folks clearly it would be difficult, although for us, well we could afford to continue to buy it as we do now.

sarahellenwhitney Tue 15-Jan-19 14:21:58

For many 75 and over persons, what ever their income, the tv is their only means of knowing ' life still exists outside their door'.
'Good on you' to those who give it to charity.
That is their choice.

VIOLETTE Tue 15-Jan-19 14:20:36

Here in France the TV licence used to be free for over 70's but about ten years ago it changed and is now income based for everyone. I think this would be a much better idea than simply stopping free licences for over 75's ...same with the fuel allowance (which, as UK pensioner ex pats was stopped for us as the UK says we live in a HOT climate (well, I suppose a Russian would consider minus 10 in winter to be hot !) instead of stopping it altogether, why can this not also be income based ? Don't tell me it would cost more for civil servants to process .......they seem well able to process letters asking for proof we are still alive and entitled to receive our UK pension ......................(until that is either stopped frozen or means tested !!) angry

Floradora9 Tue 15-Jan-19 14:20:02

luluaugust the government handed it over to the BBC they had no option .

luluaugust Tue 15-Jan-19 14:14:55

I don't understand why this is being handled by the BBC if it is a benefit, next they will be handing over the bus passes to the bus companies and so on, bureaucracy gone mad.

Barmeyoldbat Tue 15-Jan-19 13:46:35

Difficult one, I would rather go for the 50% of the fee for the over 75,s and drop the salary of some of the ridiculous salaries paid at the BBC.

mabon1 Tue 15-Jan-19 13:40:17

This government will do anything they like to make more money. If they can cut the police force by 20% they can do anything. Get Rid of Theresa May and her cronies who know nothing about the way many people survive.

Nonnie Tue 15-Jan-19 13:05:56

The other TV companies don't have to produce the less popular programmes the BBC's charter makes them produce. You cannot compare it to the commercial programmes.

Aepgirl Tue 15-Jan-19 13:02:02

If the BBC can’t afford this, they shouldn’t be paying the likes of Gary Lineker the exorbitant salaries that they receive. Remember, ITV etc is free to view.

PECS Tue 15-Jan-19 12:59:09

No no no! The BBC must not become a commercially funded business. They are biased too.

nannypiano Tue 15-Jan-19 12:49:19

Like most means tested, situations poverty is judged by whether someone receives pension credit or not. But there are always very borderline cases where one might only be couple of pounds too rich to claim it. But that doesn't mean they are comfortably off, but do miss out on other benefits that pension credit also gives them. And it looks like the TV license might be something else these unfortunate people might have to fork out for on top of all the other losses. Even with PC the amount pensioners are expected to live on is cruel. My actual pension has only gone up 20 pounds in 13 years. That doesn't keep up with inflation during this period at all, not even the cost of increased tv licenses, just one of the many increases.

Tillybelle Tue 15-Jan-19 12:47:09

Yes I do. It's over £12 a month and that is quite a bit. Plus since that is just for BBC I think it's not worth it anyway.

ElaineRI55 Tue 15-Jan-19 12:28:33

TV license is out-of-date and , in my opinion , the money is mismanaged by BBC: wages that are too high, bias ( this is backed by academic research) and fake news for example. It is my understanding you need to apply for the free license, so people can choose to continue paying.
I think it is possible that having to pay this amount could make a big difference to some older folk. I know many have to budget to the last penny. With other changes, such as yesterday's announcement that pension credit for couples can only now be claimed jointly if both are over state pensions age ( could make £000s difference as they need to apply for UC instead), those who have no or very small work pensions are struggling more and more. Anything that ameliorates the impact of loneliness in older folk shouldn't be given up lightly.

Free bus travel actually is a benefit to everyone when the wider picture is researched. See, for example -

greenerjourneys.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Concessionary-travel-costs-and-benefits-September-2014.pdf

Free prescriptions ( as is the case in Scotland) is also a better option than the bureaucracy of means-testing, where those who fall just below some cut-off point may lose out across the board.

A fair tax system that factors in such "benefits" is a much better approach, so that those who can afford to pay for these things are actually doing so , in proportion to their earnings. It also means that those older folk who would get these benefits under means-testing are not tempted to feel ashamed/stigmatised/guilty. This is the approach Scotland is trying to take and, to me, is the fairest one.

Teacheranne Tue 15-Jan-19 12:24:47

Annsixty, can I suggest you contact Alzheimers UK help desk to check that you have been given the correct financial information.. As far as I am aware, any savings you and your husband have are half yours and cannot be used to pay for his care, likewise his company pension. You will not be required to sell your house while you live in it. Most couples are advised to split their money into two accounts to keep your share separate.

Nonnie Tue 15-Jan-19 12:23:51

DOTMH I think you will find the BBC are not allowed to take money for 'product placement'.

Amelia In the UK we have to pay for a licence if we have anything which will receive TV signals whether we use it or not.

Ameliarose Tue 15-Jan-19 11:53:12

What do you mean ,you have to pay for a tv license, why? we have free to air & Netflix etc ,but license no that went out in 70tys

DotMH1901 Tue 15-Jan-19 11:51:08

If you watch carefully you can see that the BBC is using what is termed as 'product placement' in many shows it produces - not the same as an advert but I bet they get a payment in exchange! Time to scrap the TV licence and let the BBC fund itself - maybe some programmes will not get made but there are so many other channels now would anyone really miss them??

mummsymags Tue 15-Jan-19 11:51:00

margs you obviously are not a stuck-at-home older person with few family members or friends - good for you! I agree that most of the daytime tv and reality shows etc are mind-rot but for some lonely souls they create the illusion that they have 'friends' to keep up with. However crazy that seems there is no other solution available at this time in the greedy, selfish society we have created. Several people have said tv licence, bus pass, WTA and such benefits should be linked to Pension Credit and I think that would be a good solution. I have given up my car (sob,sob) and use my bus pass all the time now that I have moved to the city - don't know how I would afford it if I had to pay!

humptydumpty Tue 15-Jan-19 11:39:22

Margy very snobbish comment

Margs Tue 15-Jan-19 11:32:16

What? Is the patronising, trite, drivel such as all the "reality" shows that stuff the channels, Strictly Come Dancing, Bake-Off, X-Factor, blah, blah, blah, really worth the time of day never mind whether you have to fork out for a licence or not?

TV these days is total mind-rot. And as for the delicate souls who believe that there IS a place called Coronation Street, and that the East End of London is full of "Salt-Of-The-Earth" cockney sparrers......well, time to change your medication, methinks.

Brigidsdaughter Tue 15-Jan-19 11:27:21

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