Warwick University- would you want any dgc of yours to go there?

If it's the David Wilson I'm thinking of, he is a professor at a university in Birmingham and an expert in criminology. I stand corrected if I'm wrong.

At least the law firm who revoked their offer of employment has some standards.

There is a petition on Change.Org abut this.

KatyK
Yes that's the one. When the name David Wilson is mentioned, he's the one I think of, not a house builder.

When I was a teenager I, and I am sure most other GNs, were subjected to all sorts of unpleasant comments, if we objected we were told we had no sense of humour, that it was a joke and that we should be flattered!! I thought those excuses had been left in the past - it appears not.

As I mentioned previously, these "men" should not be allowed back on campus - they could continue their studies by post or online. Apart from women on campus feeling unsafe, allowing them back means all male students there could be treated with suspicion

Me too petra . My sister works at the same uni as him and says he's a very nice man.

Whilst I do not agree with the comments, those guys made!

Their comments were made in a private secure chat room, only available to the few members the group concerned, whether it was drunken banter within the group or raging testosterone stupidity, we will never know.

But some one within that group for whatever reason released secure private messages that they were sharing with each other, not of it was for public posting.

The second more disturbing and worrying part of the whole sorry saga of today's student life on campus is their need to feel and and desire to feel offended by anything or everything however obscure, there is no such thing as a safe place, free speech is about accepting everyone's right to offend.

It does not matter whether it be Germain Greer's views from her days as a Feminist darling with Female Eunuch to her latest views on the transgender communities, Scottish Greens MSP Ross Greer on Churchill's legacy, Pamela Geller and Robert Spencers view on Islam, Tommy Robinson or even Sheikh Ekrima Sabri views on destroying England.

When I was at University our professors were provocative and taught us to look at both sides of every argument palatable or unpalatable , we would analyse speeches by the likes of Enoch Powell/ or is torture justified/ should jury's be abolished, we would respectfully listen to speakers, challenging their views by robust questioning.

Afterwards we all would have a chance to meet the speakers and talk to them courteously as they were to us in return, never would it ever entered our heads to shout speakers down or refuse to allow them to speak, because their views differed to ours.

katef there is absolutely no such thing as a private chat area on the internet and believing that shows a naivety that beggars belief.

And what if someone hadn't 'released secure private messages'? Who knows what these men would have done next had they not been caught?

Forgive me if this is a stupid question
What is the point of them going back to Warwick to get their degrees when there is little chance of them getting a good job.
My son in law employs people and next to their qualifications for the job social media is the next port of call to check them out.

KateF What those students posted was not their views on anything, it was their stated intention to commit acts of violence against named individuals. That makes it a threat.

David Wilson is a professor of criminology. He was my daughter’s tutor as an undergraduate and advised her on her masters which she went on to do at another university.

‘She deserves a punch in the clit’
‘She deserves hair straighteners on her flaps’

maryeliza54have you considered that by repeating the posts on a public forum you may in fact be spreading attitudes and encouraging such things? You have no idea who is reading this and the people on here are not always grandparents.

I am delighted these ‘men’ have been outed What these ‘things’ think about in private is what they really wish to do Disrespect is never pretty and can verge on illegal They should not be allowed back to any Uni and if anything worse comes to light I hope they get charged

trisher
As much as I hate to read Maryelizas words, I feel that some poster really don't know how bad it was and should know.

I know exactly what I am doing by repeating these words and there’s much worse. Have you considered what you are doing by suggesting that they could be re-educated and rehabilitated? Twitter is easily accessible as is GN so I’m not providing anything that isn’t already out there but I wanted to ensure that some of you really understood the utter vileness of what these ‘men’ were posting.

I understand but there have always been on this site posters who are other than GPs and may be very impressionable. It isn't doing anyone any favours to repost such things, although it does seem to fulfill some need in you.

I would also say that there are many vile things said on social media none of which I would expect to be repeated on GN.

This is another example of social media facilitating people’s basest instincts. Like the man sent to prison, the students were probably inspired by violent online porn.

Good point Oldfossil

I think many young people, especially games players (as in X Box or Play Station gamers) have become desensitised from an early age.

Their games include killing in a multitude of ways, as though the adversary only exists for the pleasure they take in killing him off, in the most brutal of ways. They command whether a person lives or dies. I checked out some of these games when my sons were teenagers and refused to let them have them. They weren't happy, as they said 'all their friends had them'. The world has moved on since then and I can only imagine young minds are now occupied with much more explicit brutality in these games.

That women they know should be fair game or sport for their repulsive and barbaric ideas is disgusting.

In my opinion anyone who publishes anti-Semitic sentiments or threatens a woman with rape should be reported to the police, whose job it is to find out whether there are grounds for instituting proceedings against them.

This should have been done by the Chancellor of the University if he or she was made aware of the situation.

Banning the men involved is a first step. In my opinion they should never be allowed back to the university, or admitted to any other.

If people with the intelligence to get into any place of higher education do not know that threatening to rape anyone is disgusting then they must be made aware that no decent person should behave in that way.

Frankly, if I were related to any of the women concerned, I would do my utmost to help her transfer to a University that regards men and women as equals.

Is it not illegal in the UK to threaten people with rape or grievous bodily harm? It is here in Denmark, as is publishing anti-Semitic opinions or any other form of discriminatory opinion concerning religion, race etc.

I would imagine these young men come from fairly supportive and understanding families

What is the evidence for this?

I agree Day6 and the problem is What can we do? and Do we really know how bad the problem is? I think the answer to the second question is "No" and we are unlikely to find out until someone decides to put his fantasies into practice. When I was teaching I had a 7 year old who had inernet access in his bedroom. He was a very bright child and I have no doubt that before very long he would have found ways around any of the restrictions his parents tried to impose. Quite what the impact of the violence he might access might be I don't know. I certainly don't think it would do him any good.
Remember the Bulger case and the videos they had watched, we evidently haven't learned from that and it looks like we won't learn anything from this.

M0nica you don't get to uni if you are a 17 year old living in on the streets because your parents have chucked you out.

There is a very wide spectrum between " fairly supportive and understanding families" and "living on the streets because your parents have chucked you out."