Breast Ironing in young girls

Smacking children is now an offence thank goodness but if people are from a different culture the liberal pc brigade want a softly softly approach. If these people were cutting noses or ears off their children would we not be appalled at the abuse. It’s only because it is hidden. The law in this country is a joke.

Who, exactly are this " liberal pc brigade" who wish to allow young girls to be vilely abused?

Exactly Lily . Where are they? There are some nasty goady posts in this thread insinuating that no one ( or certain no ones) care at all about BI and that nothing is been done about it, much is being done and many professionals would like to do more but thanks to austerity there aren’t the resources to do as much as they would wish - that’s the real scandal that ss are on their knee. And coupled with that is the real difficulty of exactly what can be done?

There are ideas on what can be done in this article but who knows where the money will come from?

www.theguardian.com/society/2019/feb/02/urgent-action-needed-address-lack-fgm-awareness?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Austerity, resources, ss on their knees? This abuse is ancient not recent. There will always be excuses not to do anything. The French seems able to tackle it. “Goody posts” thought this was a forum for opinions?

Goady

OK, this is vile abuse of young girls which somehow seems to be " part of" some cultures.

It is totally unacceptable and needs people of the highest calibre to challenge and support. These people would most likely be social workers, who are poorly paid and massively overworked. They have huge caseloads and work long hours.

As the austerity noose becomes ever tighter round our necks, support dies. The youth service for example, a brilliant safe space for young people is destroyed. Teachers are tied to a punishing regime of testing and payment by results.

Culture and colour play a part for sure but please don't blame so called " liberals" for this abomination.

Also, I am interested to know how France tackles this?

Not seems to be part of some cultures, is part of some cultures.
Let's get that straight. There's no ifs or buts about it.

The abuse is not ancient in the UK

Health workers are an important part of this work as well - I remember the school nurse service but as if the government gives a damn about doing anything that would cost money

Lily interesting article from 2 years ago re France and FMG but attitudinal issues relevant to BI as well I would guess
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.voanews.com/amp/3485077.html

I have never heard of breast ironing and am appalled at the idea.
Thanks to everyone for all the links, I'm going to read them all now.

FGM & BI are dreadful practises and the appropriate gov.dept need to devise an effective strategy to a) raise awareness , b) identify girls most at risk & c) enable swift action to protect youngsters.
There are organisations who are already active in thes areas of concern.
I really don't find the accusations of PC brigade, softies etc hold any credibility at all. I don't think it is PC to assault or mutilate young women. Most SW & teachers I know fight hard & work hard to protect vulnerable people and would immediately take appropriate action.
The suggestion that these "traditional" customs are not tackled because the pepertrators are not white British is disingenuous. Charities working to stop such practises have workers who are from the communities concerned.

Oh gosh, the school nurse, I had forgotten all about this service.

Tbf PECS my links show that there are official strategies in place across health,social services and police. Unless we live in or are part of the relevant communities we have no real idea do we of what is being done to combat these practices and so some falsely conclude that nothing is being done. Both charities and official bodies are working together and both have a role to play. Of course more needs doung - it always does - and resources are limited but the tone of some posts on here are just goady and/ or ill informed.

The thing about the SN service was that a relationship was built up between the nurse and her designated schools. For the students she was a known person without all the ‘baggage’ of the everyday teacher relationship. She could offer a safe ear on a whole range of issues especially to girls who could talk to her in confidence without their parents knowing.

Yes and a dose of common sense.

Nowadays schools have home school link workers. They can liaise with students, organisations, SS and of course home &family.

Especially the common sense. Not wanting to stereotype but the ones I used to work with were usually returners who’d retrained as SNs after time out for children. They wove together the necessary clinical experience with appropriate SN training and life experiences.

I think petra summed it up--------Barbaric !

Ellan it is appalling as are these statistics , taken from NSPCC. It will include children from a wide range of socio economic and cultural backgrounds. Abuse is not limited to one "type" of people . We need to be equally angry about it all.

"1 in 5 children have experienced severe maltreatment
Children abused by parents or carers are almost 3 times more likely to also witness family violence
1 in 3 children sexually abused by an adult didn’t tell anyone at the time
All types of abuse and neglect are associated with poorer mental health"

This sort of ritual doesn't belong in this civilised country ! I don't care what culture people here come from but it's obvious that what's been carried out has set a precedent for those of the same mindset to also abuse in this way.

Education against this type of practice is urgently needed in this country, that it is wrong both morally and socially. We don't do this in our country----simple as that !

On the news this morning there was another ( upcoming discussion ) debateable cultural background on Sikhs carrying knives/swords as part of their attire.
This country needs no more encouragement in such a practice than it's already got ! I feel an excuse coming---" well they carry them ".

We don't want/need these people who are going to continue their own country's rites and rituals ! It's already caused untold damage to communities here and it's about time someone opened their eyes to it instead of burying their heads in the sand.

We have to respect certain countries when we visit so why isn't that respect reciprocated when those peoples are living here ?

I don't believe that " All types of abuse and neglect are associated with poorer mental health " at all. It's a fallacy, another excuse to use the mental health card.

Thank you Maryeliza

Every time you post to accuse posters of
being ' Goady ' on the subject of Breast Ironing it brings the thread back into discussion.

I am going to so now but the difference is I am hoping that posters who have never heard of Breast Ironing and probably never in a millions years would have thought it was a remote possibility will at least now hopefully be speaking to others about it.

That was the point in my starting the thread!

Well that’s good POGS and maybe raising awareness might make people lobby for more resources rather than just saying how dreadful it is

EllanVannin do you think the queen is a traitor?