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The cliff edges nearer because May doesn’t want to split party!

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Anniebach Mon 11-Feb-19 08:49:52

Thank you for your welcome to join the thread Anja but I don’t need an invite or your approval.

Anja Mon 11-Feb-19 08:47:38

The reason I posted my one-liner was to emphasise the whole point of my OP. The part in bold is where May clearly accepts that a deal acceptable to parliament is possible BUT at the risk of splitting the party.

This is so very wrong.

Anja Mon 11-Feb-19 08:43:20

Crossed again oops!!!

Anja Mon 11-Feb-19 08:42:33

No it’s not harsh Urmstongran

It seems that some people don’t want to debate but just want to hijack any political thread to repeat ad nauseum their own hatred. If Annie wants to contribute to the debate she is more that welcome. Tossing in her oft repeated manta does not contribute and if I said that I’m sick and tired of hearing that then perhaps you are right I’ve sunk to the same level....

Urmstongran Mon 11-Feb-19 08:37:47

Sorry Anja crossed post!!

Urmstongran Mon 11-Feb-19 08:37:16

Gosh Anja that’s a bit harsh! 🙁

If you don’t like one liners (a) why did you post one yourself and (b) ignore them and post on my lengthier comment instead about the CBI ❗️

Anja Mon 11-Feb-19 08:35:08

Those ardent leavers I have spoken to seemed to be saying they were ok with the EU when it was ‘the Common Market’ ie when we came together as a customs union.

It was everything else that evolved from there since that seems to have alientated them.

Posts I read on another thread seem to indicate that some posters thought that May’s deal actually included a customs union when it clearly did not.

If the EU will accept us leaving with such a Union and parliament will vote in favour then surely that must be the way forwards?

Anja Mon 11-Feb-19 08:29:46

Annie give it a bloody rest with the one-liners

Urmstongran Mon 11-Feb-19 08:27:29

Like we should listen to the CBI?

Who have a very special history of being routinely wrong about almost every major policy debate for decades!

In the late 1980s, it supported the Exchange Rate Mechanism, with disastrous consequences.

In the late 1990s, it was cheerleading for us to join the Euro, an error we mercifully avoided.

Last year, of course, it backed the Stronger In campaign, the short-term section of whose doom-laden forecasts have since proved to be untrue, and would no doubt have been even more vocal had it not been for early criticism from Vote Leave.

Perhaps it ought to be reflecting on where it has gone wrong in the past, rather than giving us the benefit, once more, of its somewhat dubious wisdom?

Anniebach Mon 11-Feb-19 08:08:40

Corbyn is putting himself before his party and the country

Anja Mon 11-Feb-19 08:04:27

Putting the party before the country.

Riverwalk Mon 11-Feb-19 08:02:50

This whole Brexit business came about to prevent a split in the Tory party, so nothing has changed, to quote May.

Anja Mon 11-Feb-19 07:39:59

Theresa May has effectively ruled out Labour’s proposal for a Brexit compromise, stressing her objection to staying inside a customs union. “I am not clear why you believe it would be preferable to seek a say in future EU trade deals rather than the ability to strike our own deals?” she wrote to Jeremy Corbyn. The PM argued that her own Brexit plan “explicitly provides for the benefits of a customs union” in terms of avoiding tariffs, while allowing “development of the UK’s independent trade policy beyond our economic partnership with the EU”.

She accepted a customs union could potentially have delivered her a Commons majority but at the serious risk of splitting her party.

The letter comes amid a growing presumption that while May remains officially committed to putting a revised Brexit plan to MPs as soon as possible, in practice this is unlikely to happen before the end of February. Business leaders have called for quicker action, with the head of the CBI, Carolyn Fairbairn, saying the UK is “in the emergency zone of Brexit now” and the confusion will not just affect jobs and investment, but harm the UK as a long-term business destination.