Corbyn's true colours revealed - "Defeat' the EU!"

Corbyn could well be described as "unreconstructed".

Although his suspiciously lukewarm support for Remain in the referendum has allowed him to fence-sit ever since, his attitudes to foreign countries remains firmly out of date.

He cannot bring himself to condemn Hammas, or Maduras and seems not to have realised that the USSR no longer exists and Russia is not a communist country, so could never condemn Putin for interfering in the EU referendum or even helping Trump get elected (after all Putin used to be a communist so he must be OK really).

" TalkRADIO has unearthed footage from the Durham Miners Gala in 2010, where Jeremy Corbyn called for the European Union, among a raft of other international organisations to be ‘defeated’. "
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No surprise because the Bennite / far left Labour MP's such as Corbyn were known for being totally EUROSCEPTIC as were the Unions at that time.

Fast forward to the Durham Miners Gala after Corbyn became Leader and they talk of Labour MP's being ' TRAITORS who they refuse to share their platform with.

The legacy of the Jeremy for Leader/Momentum/Labour Party.

Of course, Leavers take their lead from those in the forefront of the Leave movement. Here's Lord Digby Jones on twitter, sounding like a petulant toddler, 'It's all their fault, nothing to do with us'.

This guy used to be DG of the CBI, didn't he? Is this how business is conducted? By a set of whining 'it's not fair' teenagers?

Hey Mr Tusk. Those who pushed for Brexit did have a plan but it required your lot not to bully the UK, for Remoaners & the Establishment not to sabotage the wish of the majority & for Jezza’s mob not to play tribal party politics with a major National issue.

They didn't have a plan They didn't have a plan because the Leave factions didn't agree on how 'exit' should be achieved. They still don't. All they agreed on was what an evil monster the EU was and how it posed deep and serious threats to the life we used to lead in the 1970s...

One of DJ''s more memorable assertions, pre referendum, was 'not a single job will be lost'. I don't think that was true.

^stop Britain "crashing out" of Europe without a deal>

Oh Grandad please come up with something original.

Perhaps you could come up with something original, Day6, instead of this:

The EU and Remainers have done all in their power to thwart the process

It's complete and utter rubbish.

Unlike grandad's 'crashing out' statement which every single sane person with a modicum of brain can see would be a complete and utter disaster. All the 'experts', apart from a very few, are singing from the same hymn sheet; trade negotiators, former WTO personnel, top civil servants, the Treasury, professors of economics and professors of EU law; people who've done just a little bit more than read Brexit Central and listen to ignorant politicians; people who actually know how trade negotiations, the law and international treaties actually work.

They're not diehard Remainers trying to put a spanner in the works, they're people with vast experience in the fields which affect all aspects of trade and the EU.

Day 6- how can WTO rules, made by Bureaucrats in Geneva, who are not elected- and where we have NO SAY WHATSOEVER - be seen as getting back control?

How can Trump insisting we drop animal welfare, safety, and pollutant control - and the NHS- in exchange for a deal- be 'getting back control'?

How can having to do the same (minus NHS) to India + China, etc, +1000s of visas - be getting back control?

How can missing out on the Japan Deal just started with Japan and EU- be ...

and on, and on ...

The Independent reports

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-jeremy-corbyn-video-eu-defeat-labour-party-speech-world-bankers-a8774426.html

The Labour MP claimed the EU had worked in cahoots with “the world’s bankers” in creating unemployment and called on all those campaigning for “peace, justice and socialism” to oppose the bloc

Five days ago a separate video emerged of Mr Corbyn speaking in 2009 in which he argued that the Lisbon Treaty would create a “military Frankenstein”.

He went on that if the treaty was blocked it would be “such a boost to people like us” who “do not want to live in a European empire of the 21st century.

Read it and weep, Remainers.

Jeremy's young fan club has no idea how Eurosceptic he really is.

stop Britain "crashing out" of Europe without a deal

Oh Grandad please come up with something original.

If we leave the EU with No Deal, we will not be "crashing out". We will be fully part of the WTO, as are practically every trading nation in the world, including the EU and it's member states.

The dramatic "crashing out" phrase has already been dismissed as Remainer rhetoric aided and abetted by Project Fear.

'Clever stuff from the far right wing of GN.


If someone does not support Jeremy Corbyn then they must be of the far right persuasion!

There is a world of moderate reasonableness in between Corbyn and Mogg!

PS The OP has demonstrated her political stance over and over again

As have you Anja and most of the people who contribute to the News and Politics threads.

Talk about stating the bleedin' obvious....

blame the fiasco over Brexit on Jeremy!

What rubbish - ANYONE trying to extricate the UK from the clutches of Brussels would not have had it any easier, or any more straightforward.

The chances are, any PM, of whatever political persuasion would have been stabbed with exactly the same parliamentary knives May has felt. The EU and Remainers have done all in their power to thwart the process - including Corbyn who isn't quite sure exactly where he stands. As a lifelong Eurosceptic his supporting Labour Remainers is a total betrayal of his long held principles.

That is the discussion. Corbyn is not to be trusted or believed. He does not have the courage of his convictions.

His mission, is to get hard left Socialists/Marxists into Number 10 Downing Street, by hook or by crook.

He

Grandad- he could have come out and explained to the LP that despite Manifesto and Conference- it is (has been for a long time) now clear that the Referendum was won on lies and fraud, with a tiny minority- and that the FACTS now clearly indicate Brexit would hurt the most vulnerable- those in traditional industries, those in agriculture. He could have clearly made the point that what made them vote for Leave- is actually nought to do with the EU- but all to do with austerity and this Tory Gvt.

As Lammy, Chukka, Anna, Emily, etc, etc and even Starmer to some extent, and many others have done - and that now the facts are clear- he just cannot support this deal and in particular NO Deal- and not have left it too late. He didn't get a vote of no confidence, nor a GE - but now he wants Brexit to go through. turn into a disaster, see Mrs May down - then get his chance. This is WRONG - and most LP members know this. And 1000s have left or are leaving- as I have. I have joined both Lib Dems and Greens - but with the FPP system in the UK - a vote for them will probably be wasted.

If Labour had the guts and the honesty to join up with them and SNP - Tories would be finished- and so would Brexit.

There is absolutely NO reason whatsoever why JC would be able to get a deal which would have all the advantages, and none of the responsibilities of the EU. NONE whatsoever.

I belonged to a group to discuss those issues- but again and again, they said 'don't worry JC will see us right at the last minute- don't worry he can get a magical deal (as described above) all the +s, none of the -s. And now ... it's too late oh dear.

Anja 'Clever stuff from the far right wing of GN.....blame the fiasco over Brexit on Jeremy!'

the FAR RIGHT - oh my how do you come to this conclusion- flaming Norah ???

Companies are as nervous of the prospect of a Corbyn government maybe as early as June, every bit, if not more so, than a no deal Brexit, hence the threat of relocating. Yes all the political parties have agitated for a referendum during the last ten years or so! To hear them now you wouldn't think so, but in fact they have!!!
Just finished listening to TM in the H of C and thought she was brilliant! Poor old Jeremy just read his notes, got predictably angry, and was clearly as usual way out of his depth! I almost felt sorry for him! but not quite!!!

Unlike Corbyn who thinks the answer is blowing in the wind

PS The OP has demonstrated her political stance over and over again.

I’m not aware of your political allegiances GG13 and I didn’t name names.

All I am saying is that anyone who has the temerity to blame this fiasco on the Labour Party must of necessity be on the far right of the political spectrum.

Why? Because this referendum was called by the Tories and the so-called Brexit ‘negotiations’ were led by the Tories.

Anyone with any logical powers of thought, even those middle to right of centre thinkers, admit it is a fiasco made by Cameron and May. Those who are so blinkered that they cannot see this (and I certainly didn’t put you GG13 in this category) must therefore be on the far right.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/oct/25/mp-voted-for-eu-referendum

List of MPs who voted for a referendum.

Yes they had Jalima, Labour, Liberals and Conservative, but some here never let the truth get in the way of a good "rant"

So the Labour Party did vote for a referendum, who would believe it !

Anja where do you get your information on who are right wing gransnetters?

You are wrong about me!!!

All parties had been agitating for a referendum on EU membership for very many years.

I agree jura

Not entirely of her own making Anja - although she was the volunteer who took on the poisoned chalice.

544 MPs voted in favour of holding a referendum and 53 voted against.
The European Union Referendum Bill easily passed during a vote in the Commons last night by 544 to 53, with support from Labour MPs giving the motion a majority of 491.

Clever stuff from the far right wing of GN.....blame the fiasco over Brexit on Jeremy!

Really?

You couldn’t make it up!

Oops you just did....

Much better TM keeps the keys to No.10 then ? let her sort out the turmoil of her own making.

I too agree with Jura, he wants the keys to No 10 regardless of the fact the country is in turmoil