Misreading the country?

When the generals were ruling in Greece voting was compulsory even though there were no choices! One of the locals told my OH that they would draw a Mickey Mouse on the voting slip. Even that was risky as the slips were numbered and could be traced.

trisher has there not been a vote of no confidence?

trisher what else could she do? It's a democracy. The majority, for whatever reason, voted for Brexit. We may not like it but it's frustrating for us that those politicians on all sides are trying to kick it into the long grass. We'll all be relying on food banks soon enough.

Who'd want to lead the country right now ?? Who, out of the rogues gallery of politicians would anyone vote for ??

I'll only vote for the person who brings our state pension to equal that of other developed countries because at present, we have the lowest ! It's a disgrace and an insult.

Try to get things right Annie Labour's proposed deal will go to Parliament next week- little hope of it passing- then they will ask for a vote of no-confidence and a GE. If that doesn't go through (and most likely it won't) then they say a People's vote is the only way to go. I know it isn't easy to understand but a bit of honesty and effort helps.
The Labour Party isn't the government. Only the government can call a GE.

What happened to Labours promise , if no general election then a people’s vote

Why should anyone feel sorry for Theresa May? She isn't stupid. She must have realised some time ago that she wasn't going to get much more from the EU and that NI was an insolvable problem BUT she carried on pretending. Buzzing backwards and forwards like some self important bluebottle. She knew the brexiteers in her party were never going to support her deal. She evidently never speaks to the Attorney general. She should do the decent thing and resign. The mess and the shambles have been fuelled by her inability to admit she couldn't do what she said she would.
There are only two real options now a general election and a people's vote on any deal.
Those who are commenting about the suffragettes should note that the movement was never only about winning the vote. The women also believed in Equal Pay for Equal work and wanted the poor, especially women and children to be properly cared for. And only one party stands for that now. Food banks woud have been considered unthinkable by those women, who campaigned for local authorities to supply breakfasts for poor children and shamed them into doing so by setting up their own.

GG

Last night on local TV, my MP said he would back TM's deal. Then, when we've left the EU, we could sort out the Northern Irish border, using the backstop which gives MP's time for negotiations. It's only meant as a temporary measure.
He sounded very frustrated that the rest of the Conservative party were not 100% behind the Prime Minister, and he talked a lot of sense.
I'll vote for him in the next GE, not because of his Brexit views, but his transport policies, and other matters for this area.
I never post on political threads, but on this one I felt I should.
I feel really sorry for the Prime Minister. What an utter mess, and a complete shambles in Westminster.

or what else would they have been doing/discussing if it hadn't been for Brexit ?

They could have been running the bloody country.

We really should have had compulsory education in how government works from the 1950s onward. Then perhaps 90% of the adult population wouldn't be so convinced that MPs do nothing but sit on their backsides all day working out how to screw maximum expenses claims out of 'public money'.

I will repeat what I posted on another thread last night -

"Where's Guy Fawkes when you need him"!!!

You're all saying pretty much what I've been hearing all over.
I'll vote but God knows who for -or even what for except an end to this uncertainty. Those politician!! Shakes fist angrily!

I think I will spoil my ballot paper which then sends the message that yes I could be bothered to vote but will write on it ‘none of the above’.

I think the only way to 'read the country' as far as Brexit is concerned is to ask it, by way of another referendum. A GE would be no good because it just muddies the waters as there are many other policy aspects to be considered when choosing who to vote for. Brexit is really a non-party issue and, fearful though I would be about a replay of the lies, corruption and illegality of the last ref, I think it's the only way to really find out what 'the country' feels about credible (which rules out 'no deal' insanity) options.

Once we've got a 'decision' on brexit we could then have a GE to decide how best the country can be healed.

If I were to read the country on the views of the people I will meet today I would find 90% in favour of revoking A50 and trying to mitigate the harm we've done to ourselves at home and abroad. Which would really tells me absolutely nothing useful as they don't comprise a representative sample of the population. That is why properly run opinion polls are much more useful.

I will not vote, doubt the suffragettes expected me to sell my soul.

True Annie re the brave women.

Couldn't agree more Ellan kept them all in a job doing sweet nothing!

Anniebach- so true.

I have no idea who to vote for if we have a snap GE, our local MP seems to have gone to ground, we are in a leave constituency and so far has voted for leave, looking forward to see how they voted last night and will vote tonight?

Those brave women didn’t have this motley lot to want to vote for.

NanKate - I would vote for the Totally P****d off Party"

When there is the next General Election and they canvas me as they always do, I will say how disappointed I was with the man I voted for Dominic Grieve. In this area we voted to Leave and DG has gone against the wishes of his electorate BIG time.

I have to vote as I feel many brave women fought for my vote but I haven't the faintest who for. Possibly the 'Totally Pi**ed Off Party' !

It would seem to me that all the last two years has done has been a ploy to keep them all in a job or what else would they have been doing/discussing if it hadn't been for Brexit ?

At this juncture I couldn't now care less what happens because whatever the outcome you can bet it won't benefit the public so go for a no deal and be done with. Why not ? The country couldn't be any more worse off than it already is.

And just to add, I am sick and tired of the whole business.

Surely the people who voted to leave didn't expect this to go through smoothly - how naive! Should never have happened in the first place, thank you David Cameron!!

The only person who seems to be putting the country first is Anna Soubry. She is doing this at the expense of her career, the rest are doing the total opposite.
Anyone who considers a no deal acceptable has no idea of the consequences.
I say get rid of the politicians and let the business men sort it out. They know what works and what doesn't and they are the ones who will suffer in the long run.