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Is there any Tory you would TRUST to take over from Mrs May?

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jura2 Tue 19-Mar-19 15:59:53

Who? I can't think of anyone ...

varian Fri 22-Mar-19 14:42:40

The Brexit debate has been dominated by conflicting claims about how leaving the EU will affect the British economy.

Doom-laden predictions from Remainers before the vote were dismissed as “Project Fear”, while Leavers’ promises of extra NHS funding and fantastic new post-Brexit trade deals have been widely discredited.

With billions put aside for no-deal planning, there is little doubt that uncertainty around Brexit has affected the national coffers – but what is the total cost and the long-term outlook?

How much has Brexit cost so far?. The economic impact of the Brexit vote is being felt even as the clock ticks down until Britain’s scheduled 29 March exit date.

Last May, Bank of England boss Mark Carney told MPs that the cost of Brexit to the UK economy was already £40bn and counting.

www.theweek.co.uk/93785/how-much-money-has-brexit-cost-the-uk

Dinahmo Fri 22-Mar-19 14:28:04

Many politicians, business men and women, the head of the Bank of England etc after the referendum predicted that the country would suffer economically. But, none of the said it would occur immediately but after Brexit and, as we all know that hasn't happened yet. (And may it never)

luluaugust Fri 22-Mar-19 09:54:02

I would have said our local MP but he has completely disregarded the voters wishes here and so many people are now saying they won't vote again as it is a waste of their time. What a mess.

maryeliza54 Fri 22-Mar-19 09:52:25

But I suppose it’s because he has no political ambition and is therefore playing no games that we trust him and that he ‘tells it as it is’.

Ginny42 Fri 22-Mar-19 09:47:18

I'm not a Tory voter, but the only one I would trust is Ken Clarke. What a pity he's not younger and staying on.

maryeliza54 Fri 22-Mar-19 09:31:14

It’s precisely because nice has no response to the valid criticisms of the ability BJ that she retreats to the safe fantasy world of the Leave voter. From now on every disagreement including which pizza topping is best will be shouted down by Leave supporters as proof we are bitter Remainers

Eloethan Fri 22-Mar-19 09:20:03

What has Boris Johnson got to do with the leave vote?

I assume you have no sensible response to make Nicenanny because all the comments about BJ's abysmal performance as London Mayor are factual. You stated he was a great success but the facts show otherwise.

Aside from the fact that BJ was a profligate Mayor and there were many reports of his lack of application to the job, he was a disgraceful choice for Foreign Secretary (perhaps illustrating Theresa May's lack of judgment). If you think describing people as "piccanninies" and likening a woman in a burkha to a letter box, or writing a poem about Erdogan having sex with a goat is civilised behaviour that says a lot about you.

maryeliza54 Fri 22-Mar-19 09:05:08

niceyou know how BJ feels? Really? How do you know that? Perhaps you need to go on a fantasy management course as a Leave supporter

Nicenanny3 Fri 22-Mar-19 08:58:58

Good grief I know how Boris feels now. I think some on here need help with their anger management. All because Leave won the referendum and they can't accept the result, how sad.

Anja Fri 22-Mar-19 07:00:52

Funny, or sad, but that’s true. Oddly enough I could name several from other parties who I do trust to take over.

RosieLeah Fri 22-Mar-19 06:57:15

This is the only reason that Mrs May is still Prime Minister. No-one can come up with an alternative.

crystaltipps Fri 22-Mar-19 06:52:16

Boris was a terrible mayor of London , at least 2 of his deputies were sacked for some kind of misconduct, he wasted money, lied about what he would do etc., he was good at prsssing flesh at cocktail parties for his wealthy chums and photo ops, but that’s about it.

boat Fri 22-Mar-19 04:30:25

newnanny

How can you say Boris was a very good Mayor of London?

He was a lazy and incompetent Mayor, often late for meetings and winging it because he hadn't bothered to read the background papers.

Add in all the other defects that posters have mentioned and frankly he is probably the last person that any sensible person would want running this country.

Nanalex Fri 22-Mar-19 01:59:31

What about Dominic Raab? I don’t think he lied and he stood up to Mrs May and Hammond..
My first choice would be Jacob Rees-Mogg but he’s said repeatedly that he’s not interested.
The Home Secretary seems made of stern stuff..

Eloethan Fri 22-Mar-19 00:52:12

Boris Johnson was a dreadful Mayor of London. He wasted millions and millions of pounds on planning for the estuary airport and the garden bridge, new buses, water cannons, cable car, etc, etc.

His behaviour is also shameful.

newnanny Thu 21-Mar-19 22:27:39

The only people who thought it would suffer in that way seems to be Remainers, who believed the scare stories.

newnanny Thu 21-Mar-19 22:26:18

All politicians lie to some extent, but Hammond far more than most because deliberately used flawed methodology on the data to concoct horror stories over Brexit. My husband is finance analyst in civil service and Hammond was pulled up for it. Remember he said unemployment would sky rocket up the day after the referendum result. I see it is now down to a 27 year low. It has come down for 4 quarters in a row, He said house prices would go up/down depending on his audience. He said we would not be able to get any trade deals if we left EU. I see we have now concluded a deal with Canada who is our biggest trading partner, but also Switzerland, Norway etc.

quote from his colleague Hunt

'And we need to remember that the economy has actually not suffered in the way many people thought it would and we have a chance now to resolve this and move on, to close this chapter, move on to the next chapter.

maryeliza54 Thu 21-Mar-19 22:15:59

Wow newnanny what a utopian future you would wish on us. You think it matters that PH is a liar but not that PP and BJ are? Why is that?

newnanny Thu 21-Mar-19 22:09:47

Urmstongran is correct Dominic Grieve is facing deselection on March 29th, and Anna Sourby, Heidi Allan and Sarah Woolaston were too so they definitely jumped before they were kicked out. Rudd would be unlikely as she only has wafer thin majority in her seat and she is not popular. Hammond has been proven to be a liar. Ken Clarke has already announced he is standing down at next election.

I would like Boris. He was a very good Mayor of London. He did a brilliant job with staging the Olympics and crime in London was at a low when he was in charge. He is popular with Londoners after his stint as mayor, and the young as well. Grass roots Tory's like him too and they will be the ones voting on the last two candidates. The bonus if Boris was chosen would be that some may resign as not want to serve under him. I would like to see Penny Mordant and Priti Patel get top jobs in a new cabinet.

maryeliza54 Thu 21-Mar-19 22:00:20

Sadly humpty he hadn’t got a prayer

humptydumpty Thu 21-Mar-19 21:57:54

My choice is Dominic Grieve

maryeliza54 Thu 21-Mar-19 21:56:34

Thank you varian it was quite a hard call. You’ll note I haven’t mentioned his height either although I’ve no idea what it is but apparently he can play the ukulele

varian Thu 21-Mar-19 21:52:23

Admirable restraint Maryliza

maryeliza54 Thu 21-Mar-19 21:50:24

Yes Gove’s name keeps cropping up. I would mention his wife but I don’t approve of politicians being criticised because of whom they are married to so I won’t smile

GillT57 Thu 21-Mar-19 21:47:07

If there is a leadership contest it will be interesting. Nobody will presumably wish to be the one to lead the UK into financial and economic disaster so we need to watch who is coming behind and who is being pushed by others to the front. Based on my current jaded assessments of their characters I think the 'big boys and girls" will push the fool Gove to the front and then when it all, predictably, goes wrong, Boris will mount his white charger and come to save us all, probably denouncing Brexit at the same time.